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Old 03-01-2004, 07:01 PM
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Hey guys,

I need some ideas of what can be making this noise.......[noteI just recently had my head serviced on]

Its coming underneath the manifold by the #2 #3 spark plugs, around that area....its like a chk chk chk chk chk chk sound........best I can describe it.

Its been doing it for a while now and it gets really annoying........any idea of what it can be?

I have a bad fuel inector and it idles hard on morning or cold starts, also on cold start it speews out a good amount of liquid out of exhaust.....may be realted???

.........any ruff ideas?


Thanks for the help a super ROOKIE like myself appriciates it.
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Oh i forgot................when its warm and the car is not moving like on a long red light, it tends to overheat a bit where the temp gauge is about to tuch red...................once I take off it goes back to normal temp.

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It could be a lifter tick. Try some of that stuff to get lifters unstuck.
and to state the obvious just in case, check your oil level.

As to overheating,
You almost certainly have air trapped in the coolant.
Just bleed the air out.
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Yeah, that or a BAD HEAD GASKET!!!

What kind of head service did you have?
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Originally posted by turbite
It could be a lifter tick. Try some of that stuff to get lifters unstuck.
and to state the obvious just in case, check your oil level.

As to overheating,
You almost certainly have air trapped in the coolant.
Just bleed the air out.

A lifter tick? whatv does that mean.....a stuck lifter? How do I fix that?

Oil level seems ok.

Hmm I will try to bleed out any air.......wonder how u do that?


Thansk for your input.
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Originally posted by Peckster
Yeah, that or a BAD HEAD GASKET!!!

What kind of head service did you have?
Nooooo please dont let it be the Gasket!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well I had the Tbelt brake and had bent valves I had teh head machined and me and my brotehr in law a MEchanic put it together. The belts a shop did them.

How else can I check fro a bad Gasket , besides a compresion check?

Thanks .
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You can get some fancy oil additives to "unstick lifters."
I've never tried them myselves, but it seems others have mixed results.
[edit: wow, I wonder what freud would say about that typo]

Bleeding the air out of the coolant is easy.
Just have someone rev the engine while you loosen the 12mm bolt on top of the engine to let the air out. Do so until water flows then tighten it back.
This is probably one of the few things that actually *is* in the haynes manual if you have it.
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Better check your fan operation, if you continue to go into the red area you will need a head gasket.
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Originally posted by turbite
You can get some fancy oil additives to "unstick lifters."
I've never tried them myselves, but it seems others have mixed results.
[edit: wow, I wonder what freud would say about that typo]

Bleeding the air out of the coolant is easy.
Just have someone rev the engine while you loosen the 12mm bolt on top of the engine to let the air out. Do so until water flows then tighten it back.
This is probably one of the few things that actually *is* in the haynes manual if you have it.
While doing the above, make sure the coolant in the resavoir is ABOVE the max line. And that you are on level ground. And that the heater control is set to red inside the car. Don't worry if there is extra coolant when you are finished, the cap will let the extra coolant out via the overflow line.
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It's the rough cold idle that would make me nervous, plus the exhaust liquid might be a symptom. I had a replacement gasket go bad within a thousand miles last year, but that one was copper. The stock one has been fine since then.

There was someone else recently with the same symptoms. Not saying it's that, but keep it in mind.
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Originally posted by beab951
Better check your fan operation, if you continue to go into the red area you will need a head gasket.
My fans are fine, so check.
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Originally posted by turbite
You can get some fancy oil additives to "unstick lifters."
I've never tried them myselves, but it seems others have mixed results.
[edit: wow, I wonder what freud would say about that typo]

Bleeding the air out of the coolant is easy.
Just have someone rev the engine while you loosen the 12mm bolt on top of the engine to let the air out. Do so until water flows then tighten it back.
This is probably one of the few things that actually *is* in the haynes manual if you have it.
I do have the haynes manual...

I will try to get some of that lube for the lifters.

Its raining here so as soon as It stops I will bleed the cooling system.

Thanks for the advice.
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Originally posted by Peckster
It's the rough cold idle that would make me nervous, plus the exhaust liquid might be a symptom. I had a replacement gasket go bad within a thousand miles last year, but that one was copper. The stock one has been fine since then.

There was someone else recently with the same symptoms. Not saying it's that, but keep it in mind.
I am praying its not that beacuse I just done all that work and spend a good amount of $$......The thing that bothers me is I would have to take off the belts again and I dont have that Tensioner tool or $$$$$.

What symptoms did you have before that?

Did yours do the chk chk chk chk noise?


Thanks you guys this is helping
Old 03-02-2004, 08:37 PM
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951_t,

I am having / have had similar symptoms as you describe them. I haven't yet figured out whether in my case it is a head gasket, or something less expensive

How is your coolant level? Are you losing any coolant? Or is it hard to tell because your expansion tank is all yellowed and you can't see the level? (That's what happened to me before I bought a new tank)

I used to have a problem with the temp gauge going up almost to the red when idleing for a longer time. After bleeding the coolant thoroughly several times, and replacing the expansion tank with a new one, this is now fixed. Do a search on cooling system bleeding, there are some great tips on how to do that on the boards here. Also, if your expansion tank is very old, I'd consider replacing it. The tank actually has a small check valve built in that regulates how much coolant circulates around the turbocharger. On my old tank, that valve had gotten stuck, and I think this greatly contributed to my 'running hot' issues.

Where in the Bay Area are you located?

Best,

Gary.
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Gary:
where did you get the new coolant reservior? Mine's yucky lookin'.


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