Tuning with the SMT6
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I'm not even power shifting. When the boost comes on in third, the tires spin. I am running a lsd... the kit is crazy. I'm going to work on the timing and retune for more.
As john said 3.0ltr on the way!
ps john, mom loves the car. She wants to buy it off me! Widebody here I come..
As john said 3.0ltr on the way!
ps john, mom loves the car. She wants to buy it off me! Widebody here I come..
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It can be done. However I would not use it as an Auto Tune, as the wideband O2 sensor has a slow reaction time... I would like to use it more as of a backup...
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fast951, hows the integration of wideband sensor into SMT6. Will this provide an autotune (offline or online) capability.
fast951, hows the integration of wideband sensor into SMT6. Will this provide an autotune (offline or online) capability.
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John- what do you think of leaving the wideband hooked up as a perm fixture? And whats your take on using the simulated narrowband output to the dme? Just curious. I plan on using one alongside a dynojet wideband to compare and then prob leave in the car.
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The wideband is getting to be inexpensive enough that leaving it in the car is an option. I have not used any WB kit with a simulated output, so I can't comment. Vitesse is involved in a project where we similar simulation takes place...
I see no reason why I wouldn't use the stock O2 sensor for what it was intended for (DME). I also like to use the AFR gauge as a warning light when the WB sensor is not used...
You should be getting few files...
I see no reason why I wouldn't use the stock O2 sensor for what it was intended for (DME). I also like to use the AFR gauge as a warning light when the WB sensor is not used...
You should be getting few files...
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Originally posted by Tom M'Guinn
I would love to have that level of tunability. I still use the 4 ***** of my ARC2 to massage my APE chips.
So, can I use this piggy-back system to replace the ARC while retaining the rest of my Hutley parts (Stage 2 turbo--full boost at 2900, Stage 4 MAF, bigger injectors, Profec B controller, Deltagate)?
I see the piggyback listed at $750 on the vitesse.com website. Does this include new chips and everything needed to get me cell-level fuel tuning on the laptop? Does it come with initial best-guess fuel maps for a car like mine? (I trust the laptop is not needed to run the car, but rather is used just for tuning, right?)
I would love to have that level of tunability. I still use the 4 ***** of my ARC2 to massage my APE chips.
So, can I use this piggy-back system to replace the ARC while retaining the rest of my Hutley parts (Stage 2 turbo--full boost at 2900, Stage 4 MAF, bigger injectors, Profec B controller, Deltagate)?
I see the piggyback listed at $750 on the vitesse.com website. Does this include new chips and everything needed to get me cell-level fuel tuning on the laptop? Does it come with initial best-guess fuel maps for a car like mine? (I trust the laptop is not needed to run the car, but rather is used just for tuning, right?)
I'm not trying to sell anything, this is just based on my expereince....
I used the piggyback on my car with the Split Second Maf. Worked fine.
I didn't have APE chips installed though. I've used the kit you have and from my experience with the APE chips, and the Perfect Power SMT6 you should have enough tuning capability to use the APE chips with the SMT6.
Take a look at the SMT6 software manual on Perfect Power's site to get a better idea of what the piggyback can do. Its pretty neat.
http://www.perfectpower.com/
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How does perfect power differ from split second???
Sean: So you are currently running the universal split second maf sensor with the SMT6???
Sean: So you are currently running the universal split second maf sensor with the SMT6???
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i have the same question as Tom M'Guinn about ditching the setup or will it work with my original setup. I have different chips though i think and a MAF and etc... Will this work
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I just used my Split Second MAF to confirm that the MAF that Vitesse sent me was bad - my Split Sec MAF worked fine on my car whereas the Vitesse MAF acted eractically.
If you get an SMT6, you can tell if your Split Second MAF is adequate for your car based on the output voltage from the MAF. You can read this voltage in the SMT6 tuning software. When the MAF is putting out 5Volts, its maxed out.
So you could always get the SMT6 then see if your MAF is adequate. If not, call Pro Flow and get a MAF calibrated for your HP/injector size.
One thing the SMT6 does not do, which I wish it did, is datalogging injector duty cycle.
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If you get an SMT6, you can tell if your Split Second MAF is adequate for your car based on the output voltage from the MAF. You can read this voltage in the SMT6 tuning software. When the MAF is putting out 5Volts, its maxed out.
So you could always get the SMT6 then see if your MAF is adequate. If not, call Pro Flow and get a MAF calibrated for your HP/injector size.
One thing the SMT6 does not do, which I wish it did, is datalogging injector duty cycle.
-Sean
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Todd,
I just got my Split Second PSC1-004. I haven't installed the kit yet, but I've been playing with the software - pretty straight forward for now. The unit I have has 4 additional 0-5 volt inputs.
Unlike some piggybacks, the PSC1 unit will NOT adjust timing on its own (additional control box required) and it will not log the narrowband (0-1v) o2 signal.
The software allows switching between 2 separate maps, datalogging up to 8 inputs (RPM, Volts, Map A&B, 4 Aux inputs,) 3D fuel maps, and a cool tuning window for monitoring changes in real time. The laptop connection is done via a serial cable and has a sampling time of 10ms for storage to a file and 100ms for real time screen updates.
Hope these details will provide some similarities/differences to other products on the market. I'll post again once I'm up and running.
Vic
I just got my Split Second PSC1-004. I haven't installed the kit yet, but I've been playing with the software - pretty straight forward for now. The unit I have has 4 additional 0-5 volt inputs.
Unlike some piggybacks, the PSC1 unit will NOT adjust timing on its own (additional control box required) and it will not log the narrowband (0-1v) o2 signal.
The software allows switching between 2 separate maps, datalogging up to 8 inputs (RPM, Volts, Map A&B, 4 Aux inputs,) 3D fuel maps, and a cool tuning window for monitoring changes in real time. The laptop connection is done via a serial cable and has a sampling time of 10ms for storage to a file and 100ms for real time screen updates.
Hope these details will provide some similarities/differences to other products on the market. I'll post again once I'm up and running.
Vic
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Toddk911,
I've got a bunch of stuff that will go on e-bay... The MAF kit is one of the items. I was planning to do it today, but I woke up sick this morning.
In fact I finished my car last night and I haven't even started it up yet!...this is sure sign im not feeling well... =)
take care,
Sean
I've got a bunch of stuff that will go on e-bay... The MAF kit is one of the items. I was planning to do it today, but I woke up sick this morning.
In fact I finished my car last night and I haven't even started it up yet!...this is sure sign im not feeling well... =)
take care,
Sean
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todd, the SMT6 does use a laptop. You can change the "global" settings on it and increase fuel all around, change a particular cell,,etc. I just got off the phone with Jim(jwl) who is out driving his car. He just turned over 1000 miles, warm vac is 18-19 inches,,so he just turned up the boost to 16psi. He increased the whole fuel setting to number 4, which increased his whole map,,he was rich. Anyway he ended up at +2 over the settings he originally had with breakin. He said the car was turning out 12.0:1 @ 4500, 12.4:1 was had at 6300. Also said the pavement is dictating his second gear boost runs,,somewhat smooth asphalt(older), the car breaks loose. If it is sort of rough or chip seal the car stays hooked up. He stated he would post tonight about the drive and would get to the dyno this week.