View Poll Results: The following best describes how you feel about the 928
I prefer the old body (86 and older), but the NB is ok as well
53
40.15%
The NB cars are my favorite, but an OB would be nice, too
45
34.09%
I only like the OB cars...not a fan of the NB
20
15.15%
It's NB or nothing
14
10.61%
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Poll: Old Body Vs. New Body 928
05-01-2017, 01:06 PM
#31
Reading the latest issue of 000 Magazine, Mobius' original vision never did get realized in the first place and the early cars are a compromise in themselves. Perhaps the best example cited in the article was that Mobius had intended the rear quarter windows to be concave not convex. That would have dramatically changed the appearance of the rear of the car.
05-01-2017, 01:48 PM
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Reading the latest issue of 000 Magazine, Mobius' original vision never did get realized in the first place and the early cars are a compromise in themselves. Perhaps the best example cited in the article was that Mobius had intended the rear quarter windows to be concave not convex. That would have dramatically changed the appearance of the rear of the car.
05-01-2017, 04:04 PM
#35
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For the first 10 years of playing with 928s I was all about the later models, and then got seduced by the original intent of the OB's styling. I think it's less a function of the vintage- there are so many great shots of 928s of all model years, where the photographer caught (on purpose or not) something that is just 'right'. In the end it's sort of like perusing the IHI thread- lots of different cues, curves, angles, that catch the eye. And I'd hit a lot them. 
05-01-2017, 06:56 PM
#36
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All of these styles have merit, but the original möbius execution is the most inspired. These cars are void of spoilers, wings, cladding, moldings, and the most offensive addition ever, the side protection spears. It wasn't just PORSCHE piling the parts on to these things; This was the styling phase that can best be described as virgin, before the molestation offered by the USDOT and its European counterparts that gave us sealed beams, passenger mirrors, rear bumpers, various lights down the sides, and rear fog lights. Only the first few hundred cars got out in this pure state. These are art. The rest of the cars have "additions" that visually compromise the orginal execution.
Some disturbing trivia: if you add all of the addional styling available through 1986 to one of these first few hundred cars, you have to cut or drill over 40 holes in the body.
Some disturbing trivia: if you add all of the addional styling available through 1986 to one of these first few hundred cars, you have to cut or drill over 40 holes in the body.
Reading the latest issue of 000 Magazine, Mobius' original vision never did get realized in the first place and the early cars are a compromise in themselves. Perhaps the best example cited in the article was that Mobius had intended the rear quarter windows to be concave not convex. That would have dramatically changed the appearance of the rear of the car.
Meh...I think it was my side spear comment.
05-01-2017, 09:02 PM
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It's interesting watching attitudes change over the years. Take the Countach, at one point the early cars were ugly, less popular and collecting dust. Now the LP400's (especially the lowboy) are worth some serious coin.
I have vintage Corvette News magazines with ads stating: "Update your 63 by removing that bar in the window".
Later issues: "Update your 78-72 with one piece bumpers"
It's some kind of cycle which starts out with buyers only wanting the newest, latest, fastest etc.... but as time moves on and cars become more of a collector, the older cars are more appreciated for the original looks since collectors rarely buy for performance / features.
Nobody is paying 1/4 million for a vintage big block Vette because it's faster than a small block version. Actually, people buying a vintage Vette to actually drive them prefer the small blocks, they handle better and are more reliable.
I have vintage Corvette News magazines with ads stating: "Update your 63 by removing that bar in the window".
Later issues: "Update your 78-72 with one piece bumpers"
It's some kind of cycle which starts out with buyers only wanting the newest, latest, fastest etc.... but as time moves on and cars become more of a collector, the older cars are more appreciated for the original looks since collectors rarely buy for performance / features.
Nobody is paying 1/4 million for a vintage big block Vette because it's faster than a small block version. Actually, people buying a vintage Vette to actually drive them prefer the small blocks, they handle better and are more reliable.
05-01-2017, 09:26 PM
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I prefer the older style along with rub strip delete. To me the newer body looks heavier and add on rub strip it takes away from the fluid design. The photo's of the very first cars ( euro version ) look the best and what Mobius was trying to achieve. The only issue with the earlier cars was the rear track was just a bit narrow IMO. I guess you could imagine a 78/79 body without a sun roof. spoilers, rub strips, side marker lights but with the hips of a GTS
05-01-2017, 09:37 PM
#41
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Actually Nate I suspect that as the cars got later many "coded" options became "standard" build items (pass. mirrors, sunroofs, rear wipers, etc) and specific order cars could be specified "without" probably at extra charge. I imagine a big gray area, on non-customer-order builds, of what was a coded option that became one of these "standard build" items, a "sometimes build" item (like LSD) , or a "never build" item (like leather lock plates and such) with an equally loose policy of when these "standard build" items got printed on the option sticker.
The mysteries that keep our interest right?
05-02-2017, 12:00 AM
#42
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It's interesting watching attitudes change over the years. Take the Countach, at one point the early cars were ugly, less popular and collecting dust. Now the LP400's (especially the lowboy) are worth some serious coin.
I have vintage Corvette News magazines with ads stating: "Update your 63 by removing that bar in the window".
Later issues: "Update your 78-72 with one piece bumpers"
It's some kind of cycle which starts out with buyers only wanting the newest, latest, fastest etc.... but as time moves on and cars become more of a collector, the older cars are more appreciated for the original looks since collectors rarely buy for performance / features.
Nobody is paying 1/4 million for a vintage big block Vette because it's faster than a small block version. Actually, people buying a vintage Vette to actually drive them prefer the small blocks, they handle better and are more reliable.
I have vintage Corvette News magazines with ads stating: "Update your 63 by removing that bar in the window".
Later issues: "Update your 78-72 with one piece bumpers"
It's some kind of cycle which starts out with buyers only wanting the newest, latest, fastest etc.... but as time moves on and cars become more of a collector, the older cars are more appreciated for the original looks since collectors rarely buy for performance / features.
Nobody is paying 1/4 million for a vintage big block Vette because it's faster than a small block version. Actually, people buying a vintage Vette to actually drive them prefer the small blocks, they handle better and are more reliable.
- Acura NSX - IMHO it peaked '94 with the beautiful wheels, survived relatively unscathed for another 8 years or so, then they screwed it up by getting rid of the pop-up headlights.
- Nissan 300ZX - Give me the original rear spoiler of the 90-93, not the wing of the later models
- Lexus SC400 - Loved the original chin spoiler, then they took it away in 95
The 928 doesn't suffer this IMHO, as I think the design of the 928 is great in all versions - the purity of the original design, the aggressiveness of the front/rear spoilered S model, the sleek modern rounded look of the S4/GT enhanced by the broadened muscularity of the the GTS. I love 'em all and would have an example of each if funds allowed.
05-03-2017, 08:22 AM
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I agree. I thought I would only like the NB styling when I first pursued my cars, but I have learned to love all of them.
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05-03-2017, 11:49 AM
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