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Old 04-16-2017, 01:24 PM
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Squirters are common on many factory boosted engines, Volvo has been using them for over 25 years that I know, interestingly on an engine designed by Porsche. They aid in piston cooling which can be a real issue for boosted cars, not only in the obvious burn through but also in preignition. The efficiency or effectiveness of a boosted engine being largely determined by keeping the charge air as cool as possible.

It is possible that on the air-cooled cars the squirter was there to accommodate factory boosting, and didn't hurt the non boosted cars.

It is possible when Porsche developed the S4 that boosting was on the horizon. I'm curious on why the oil squirter would be more of an oil storm issue than on many cars where it works better. Possibly too much oil pressure, on the volvos the squirters have an intricate pressure management on the squirters that required external block access, not an inexpensive add.

Did the air-cooled cars run at lower oil pressures?

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Old 04-16-2017, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Adk46
Does the enhanced "oil storm" of a squirter suggest a better baffle is needed in the fill neck? Only if you often rev it up? I didn't have a big pool of oil in my intake, but I don't think my car's PO's were rev-happy. I'm not rev-happy, either. Reciprocating loads ~ RPM^2.

I'd like to think of it blissfully as a generally harmless rarity, a distinction, a good thing in the crazy world of vintage cars.
Your thinking is correct. The oiling issues are mostly at sustained high RPMs. It is also related to one of the things that makes the 928 so elegant: The low hoodline. There is just not that much room between pavement and hood to pack in a big V8 with all the stuff that goes with it. So one compromise was an oil pan that is quite a bit more shallow than most comparable engines. Between the spinning crank and pistons pumping up and down, it gets windy down there, and a fair bit of oil gets picked up in the maelstrom.

For normal use, even winding to redline through the gears, is not a problem. Drive car, have fun, be happy.

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It is possible when Porsche developed the S4 that boosting was on the horizon. I'm curious on why the oil squirter would be more of an oil storm issue than on many cars where it works better. Possibly too much oil pressure, on the volvos the squirters have an intricate pressure management on the squirters that required external block access, not an inexpensive add.
It is possible that boosting was on the radar, certainly-- lots of work with turbos on 911s and 944s at that time. I don't think it is an oil pressure issue, it might have been as simple as the accountants looking at the bills for machining the blocks and asking awkward questions.
Old 04-17-2017, 03:19 AM
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Well, FWIW, with Gregs oil separator, I don't use a drop of oil with regular solid abuse like I used to.

At all.

Ever.

Touch it..it's a squirter..it's ok...


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