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Old 03-08-2017, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Adk46
...it is important that you fall in love with the car; your emotions are critical to success.
This is the key. There are people on this list driving extreme basket cases. Kevin (in VA) is driving a car that literally came to him from a junk yard on a fork lift.

These cars aren't as nimble as your 951. They aren't as fast as a 911. They aren't as fun as a Boxster. They're not as comfortable as a Cayenne. But there's something.

If you get that something, it's all worth it and this is forum is the place.
Old 03-08-2017, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by drooman
Lets remember that this is an early 80s automatic. Right now, matching condition for condition, perhaps the lowest value of the entire model range. Decide if this is the model range you want to be in...

...Nate your observations are right on as usual but I wouldn't go to 5K on this one. This just screams parts car to me (~1k)
I agree that the early 80s autos are the "red headed stepchild" of the least appreciated car Porsche built, so the value is about as low as it can be.

And this one is not in great shape. The weirdness around the headlight, the panel alignment, the lack of an air filter (or top of the airbox or tubes), corner markers missing, possible color change, all that stuff is troubling.

But if it runs and drives (still a question), I'd hate to see it parted out.
It would make a nice "first 928" for someone who understands what owning an old Porsche is like, and is looking to get one.

This would be a "fix it up enough to drive it", but not really invest any more money than that. Interior? Throw some covers over the seats. Paint? Give it a good buffing and leave it go. Kiwiokie (?) recently got that 79 from Houston and raved about how it drove home, even though it is in rough shape. This would be similar.

My 944 is in this 'class' - beat up and not worth a whole lot but runs and drives. It's still a lot of fun, in part because I know it's not worth much so I don't have to worry about it.

Depending on the answer to the questions being asked, I might go $3k on this one.
Old 03-08-2017, 12:06 PM
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Agree with this, but $3K is about tops if all those questions are answered in a good way. There's an '86.5 (let's face it, the best year of all although I might be biased ) in pretty decent condition that got parked 3 years ago because the timing belt light came on, and I think the ask for that was $5K. If I had room for that it would be in my driveway right now, as an in-traffic good weather daily driver.

Originally Posted by Wisconsin Joe
I agree that the early 80s autos are the "red headed stepchild" of the least appreciated car Porsche built, so the value is about as low as it can be.

And this one is not in great shape. The weirdness around the headlight, the panel alignment, the lack of an air filter (or top of the airbox or tubes), corner markers missing, possible color change, all that stuff is troubling.

But if it runs and drives (still a question), I'd hate to see it parted out.
It would make a nice "first 928" for someone who understands what owning an old Porsche is like, and is looking to get one.

This would be a "fix it up enough to drive it", but not really invest any more money than that. Interior? Throw some covers over the seats. Paint? Give it a good buffing and leave it go. Kiwiokie (?) recently got that 79 from Houston and raved about how it drove home, even though it is in rough shape. This would be similar.

My 944 is in this 'class' - beat up and not worth a whole lot but runs and drives. It's still a lot of fun, in part because I know it's not worth much so I don't have to worry about it.

Depending on the answer to the questions being asked, I might go $3k on this one.
Old 03-08-2017, 12:49 PM
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I want to thank all of you for your help...it's deeply appreciated.

Just an update:

The air box is with the car, complete - just removed currently.
Front end splitter looks like it needs minor repair, but no damage to the nose or front bumper (probably hit a curb with it)
The car runs, has a new battery, paint is a 6/10, and shows no signs of fluid leakage anywhere under a prolonged idle.
Headlights, wipers and all directional and running lights function (car has a current inspection sticker)
Blower motors work, all front guages function properly (tach, temp, rpm, battery)
Seller has the original owners manual & warranty manual and some service records
VIN - WP0JA0926CS820517 - (WHICH COMES BACK CLEAN WITH NO ACCIDENTS, THEFTS, SALVAGE, ETC)

Survey completed - conclusion - I've decided to roll the dice & buy the car - $2900

It's being shipped tomorrow and will arrive tomorrow, drop off at my local Porsche dealer where my 951 Turbo currently is located. Now I have (2) Porsche projects underway - will determine a coarse of action and future plans for this car once it arrives and goes through a PPI inspection. Hope my wife doesn't kill me.

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Old 03-08-2017, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by hinch77

Survey completed - conclusion - I've decided to roll the dice & buy the car - $2900

It's being shipped tomorrow and will arrive tomorrow, drop off at my local Porsche dealer where my 951 Turbo currently is located. Now I have (2) Porsche projects underway - will determine a coarse of action and future plans for this car once it arrives and goes through a PPI inspection. Hope my wife doesn't kill me.
You're in now. I'm late to the party, but since you didn't read the visitor sticky here's a few highlights.

A) A Porsche dealer is the LAST place you want your 928. Not only have they not seen one for 15 years, the last guy that worked on a 928 there has retired or forgotten everything about the car. They will not do a PPI(post purchase) worth anything unless you are going to hire them to fix stuff, in which case they will find everything, right down to the corrosion under the battery and the price to repair just that will start at $700.

B) The 928 isn't like the 944/951. Not much commonality so don't expect the guy looking at your 951 will be suitable for the 928 work.

C) A decent repaint can run from $3000 with you doing most of the prep to $10,000 for a quality full disassembly and respray and assembly. Figure $5500 for a decent job with some rust repairs that you haven't found yet. You are now into the car for > $8000 and haven't touched the engine, trans, brakes, or int. As soon as it comes out of the paint shop, you're underwater on value. But - I have been advised that these cars aren't about being underwater financially, they have intrinsic value, so forge on ahead, Keep Roger at 928sRUS on speed dial, and keep us informed.
Old 03-08-2017, 01:13 PM
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This Porsche dealer has helped me as a drop off point for shipping and has not charged me for any storage fees on my 951T. I am aware that more than likely no tech in that shop has ever changed a timing belt or water pump on a 951 Turbo let alone a 928. I have other options in my area...another shop just North of me I did buisness with for 7 years is a great shop and work on late model Porsches. In addition I purchase all my parts on my own and do alot of the work on my car myself.
You have to start somewhere and for me it's drop off, eval, clean and detailing, then map out the future work and plans for the car.
I'm going to remain optimistic about this buy and hope it works out for the best. For me it's like: " consider another one saved "
The cool thing is now I've got a matching pair of Porsches in guards red: 951T & 928..
Old 03-08-2017, 01:18 PM
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Congrats! Sounds like you are a glass half full kinda guy, which is great. I am the same way except since I bought my 928 sight unseen on non-running I cut the top third off the glass so that I can become a glass 3/4 full guy.

Post your VIN over at this thread and Rob will run it for you.
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...n-78-79-a.html

Post some pics of the interior when you get a chance!

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"another one saved" occurs at the other end of the refurbishment. Hope it works out, and is back out on the road soon.
Old 03-08-2017, 02:39 PM
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We like your optimism hinch77.

If you buy your own parts, do your own work and haven't already used our main parts suppliers then consider these two vendors. You won't be disappointed.

Calling them trumps looking at what they have on their sites.

http://www.928srus.com/

http://www.928intl.com/

We also recommend becoming a RL member. It's only like $18/ year. There's benefits to it. One is you can add a signature to your profile with your MY of your 928 so when you ask questions, (and you will) nobody will have to ask. It will always be there.

Where are you located? That will help also if there are any current 928 owners in your area to help.

Welcome to the Shark Tank.
Old 03-08-2017, 02:45 PM
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Welcome to the club. Based on your descriptions, I think $2900 is probably a reasonable cost of buy-in. You can keep things under control financially by prioritizing stuff. Safety first, of course (fuel lines, power steering lines, etc) and other deferred maintenance that may be needed to run properly after that. Cosmetic stuff can be done at your leisure.
Old 03-08-2017, 07:45 PM
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adk46 and the rest are right: you MUST love the car. It's an '82 so it's a non-interference engine. It has Euro H-4 lights so maybe they weren't just converted properly. I like the 'manhole covers', they are pricy, $2900 and it runs? Good score with that one. Now the adventure begins, and you've come to the right place for help with that.
Old 03-09-2017, 10:20 AM
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Welcome to the shark tank. Let the adventure begin. Since you are committed at this point, you've probably learned that the front wing, er...fender... must have been a reproduction from some old repair. I'm not a metallurgist, but I'm pretty sure aluminium does not rust. The doors, bonnet, and front wings are all aluminium - or at least they were when they left West Germany.

As you start going through the car figuring out what to replace, start making a list and keep it until Thanksgiving. 928 INTL starts a half-price sale on ALL used parts, from the smallest screw up to complete engines and transmissions from Thanksgiving to Christmas. I bought an engine from them last year and it can save you a fortune if you can wait.

The 928 group on Rennlist is the most helpful and knowledgeable forum I have ever experienced. Practically everything you find wrong has a documented diagnosis and repair procedure complete with pictures. Use the search function. It will be your friend.

Good luck.



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