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Old 12-08-2016, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by James Bailey
Go to any live classic car auction and you too end up negotiating the reserve figure or as bidding slows are "encouraged" to drop the reserve. Or go to B J Scottsdale and there is no reserve allowed. But as pointed out the 5% buy fee on BAT makes it clear what is in BAT's best interests........just business.
B J now allows for reserves on some, fyi.
Old 12-08-2016, 01:01 PM
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Except that they are not a live auction but a glorified eBay with increased chance of selling cars due to their 5% automatic collection with "successful" bids.

$250 with an ad that is often cut and paste with your vehicle name changed between the ads. They don't help to improve your pics. Even though a higher reserve can lessens the chance for a successful sale, it will also add to their commission.

Again, I understand this is business, but I feel now that they have had the ears of Porsche 928 players, they may have become much more arrogant (there was absolutely no movement to their reserve).

Well, bottom line, they are a popular site that people will continue to use. Rant over. Money's in the bank, off to the next project

Originally Posted by James Bailey
Go to any live classic car auction and you too end up negotiating the reserve figure or as bidding slows are "encouraged" to drop the reserve. Or go to B J Scottsdale and there is no reserve allowed. But as pointed out the 5% buy fee on BAT makes it clear what is in BAT's best interests........just business.
Old 12-08-2016, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by XS29L9B
B J now allows for reserves on some, fyi.
Yes as always there are exceptions to everything...if you have a really special car, you are a celebrity seller, and you buy and sell with B J a lot.......most anything is possible. But for the average seller you will be very lucky to have your car run on a good day, at a good time, and on TV All of which is subject to negotiation.
Old 12-08-2016, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by hwyengr
But that's the thing. They made as many 964s as the entire run of 928s, 62,000 or so, and you don't see typical 928s getting their MSRP for a selling price. Limited doesn't always equal high valuation.

Not to sound like the naysayers, but while the Weissachs are super rare, to lots of people they're still an '82 928.
The 911 really is in it's own atmosphere, and always has been. The 964 was the "928" of the 911 world up until recently, though. By that I mean that they were trading as low as about 1/3 of their initial price...in the low $20K range. That was never the $5K (and below) that 928s fell to on eBay, but it was cheap when at the same time a 3.0 SC was $17K (new $28K) and a 3.2 Carrera was in the low to mid-twenties (and some higher) (new $35K). I mean, people were literally buying 964s, removing the engines and trannies to put into the 911SC, and parting out the rest of the car! The whole Singer concept comes from a disposable 3.6 liter 911. It was nuts. Now, years later. the world woke up and realized that the 964 is perhaps the best version of the air-cooled cars - a neat blend of old and new, and with the quality of old Porsche before they went to the cheaper materials of the 993. So many cut up, so many turned into racers, so many exported to France, Germany, and Japan....and the values have skyrocketed.

So the 928 is now starting to see it's day, but it's going to take some time. Due to neglect, exports, expensive mechanical failures, and other forms or attrition, the heard continues to thin out. Maybe in terms of dollars they have not had the jump the 964 has seen. But in percentage, it far exceeds the 964 growth. 100% growth is easy to see. Some are seeing 200%....300%. It's not impossible for a car that sold for $10,000 not that long ago to be pushing $40,000 nowadays. Don't underestimate the nutty Porsche owners either - they know exactly what a Weissach is, and that car will continue to grow in value exponentially beyond the typical 1982.

I go to the PCA Tech Tactics every year, and one of the favorite talks is market value report. The 914 went from cheap & unloved, to 10X growth. Could the 944 be next? My guess is that the remaining decent examples will also go up, once people realize (again) that they are such a great automobile to drive and own.

If anyone was (or still is) in the market for a cheap 928, it's pretty clear that the ship has sailed, or is at least a few feet from the dock.
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