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Old 11-21-2016, 03:45 PM
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Default WTB - Sis Tools B90 P

Anyone have one they would like to sell? Or rent if I pay for the shipping?

Hard to find these in the great white north without getting rapped.


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Old 11-21-2016, 11:23 PM
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Hi Adam- I have the Sir Tools for the 928 rear hub, B90, but not including the "horseshoe" bracket, IOW you need a shop press. I'll be glad to send you more info if you are interested, and we could work out a deal if you are, or I would be glad to lend it to you. I bought it some years ago and the price has gone way up since then, so I could afford to sell it at a pretty good price compared to what it goes for now.
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On my winter projects list is a shipable crate for my B90 kit. I bought it originally with the intent of sharing it with the community, but it's suffered a lot from transit damage as it's crisscrossed the country via UPS and FEDEX. I get very regular requests to borrow the tool, and have had to turn down all non-local requests for the last few years now. I also had no idea that the steel bits in the box had reduced to gold since I bought the kit. May need to take a security deposit now that the $250 kit I bought is inching closer to $1k (!!!) with the accessory bits now in the box.

Adam, if you buy Martin's tool, I'm pretty sure you can get the horseshoe bracket as a separate part directly from Sir Tools. This piece is the key to being able to extract the drive hub from the bearing without needing to remove the carrier. You may be able to use a slide-hammer type axle puller for this, but it's a lot of work compared with the simple extraction using the horseshoe bracket and the rest of the B90 bits.

Absent the availability of the Sir Tools horseshoe bracket, I would be looking to a local fabricator/welding shop for a short piece of at least ~~8" steel pipe (has to fit over the hub), with a 3/8" steel plate welded over one end and hole in the plate for the threaded rod. Make the pipe section long enough to hold a drive hub with the extended spacer studs while you are there, a shortcoming with the Sir Tools bracket. There are aftermarket bearing installation kits that have the other pieces (threaded rod and nuts, drive plates) needed to make a functional replacement kit if it comes to that.
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Originally Posted by dr bob
On my winter projects list is a shipable crate for my B90 kit. I bought it originally with the intent of sharing it with the community, but it's suffered a lot from transit damage as it's crisscrossed the country via UPS and FEDEX. I get very regular requests to borrow the tool, and have had to turn down all non-local requests for the last few years now. I also had no idea that the steel bits in the box had reduced to gold since I bought the kit. May need to take a security deposit now that the $250 kit I bought is inching closer to $1k (!!!) with the accessory bits now in the box.

Adam, if you buy Martin's tool, I'm pretty sure you can get the horseshoe bracket as a separate part directly from Sir Tools. This piece is the key to being able to extract the drive hub from the bearing without needing to remove the carrier. You may be able to use a slide-hammer type axle puller for this, but it's a lot of work compared with the simple extraction using the horseshoe bracket and the rest of the B90 bits.

Absent the availability of the Sir Tools horseshoe bracket, I would be looking to a local fabricator/welding shop for a short piece of at least ~~8" steel pipe (has to fit over the hub), with a 3/8" steel plate welded over one end and hole in the plate for the threaded rod. Make the pipe section long enough to hold a drive hub with the extended spacer studs while you are there, a shortcoming with the Sir Tools bracket. There are aftermarket bearing installation kits that have the other pieces (threaded rod and nuts, drive plates) needed to make a functional replacement kit if it comes to that.
Right on about the change in material to a precious metal! And the literature I received with the kit I got said that the horseshoe bracket (and all other bits) were available separately, but I didn't pursue that option. And again, I'm glad, as are you, to lend the thing out, but haven't decided yet about a deposit.
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Originally Posted by M. Requin
Hi Adam- I have the Sir Tools for the 928 rear hub, B90, but not including the "horseshoe" bracket, IOW you need a shop press. I'll be glad to send you more info if you are interested, and we could work out a deal if you are, or I would be glad to lend it to you. I bought it some years ago and the price has gone way up since then, so I could afford to sell it at a pretty good price compared to what it goes for now.
Martin, shoot me a PM with your price.

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On my winter projects list is a shipable crate for my B90 kit. I bought it originally with the intent of sharing it with the community, but it's suffered a lot from transit damage as it's crisscrossed the country via UPS and FEDEX. I get very regular requests to borrow the tool, and have had to turn down all non-local requests for the last few years now. I also had no idea that the steel bits in the box had reduced to gold since I bought the kit. May need to take a security deposit now that the $250 kit I bought is inching closer to $1k (!!!) with the accessory bits now in the box.

Adam, if you buy Martin's tool, I'm pretty sure you can get the horseshoe bracket as a separate part directly from Sir Tools. This piece is the key to being able to extract the drive hub from the bearing without needing to remove the carrier. You may be able to use a slide-hammer type axle puller for this, but it's a lot of work compared with the simple extraction using the horseshoe bracket and the rest of the B90 bits.

Absent the availability of the Sir Tools horseshoe bracket, I would be looking to a local fabricator/welding shop for a short piece of at least ~~8" steel pipe (has to fit over the hub), with a 3/8" steel plate welded over one end and hole in the plate for the threaded rod. Make the pipe section long enough to hold a drive hub with the extended spacer studs while you are there, a shortcoming with the Sir Tools bracket. There are aftermarket bearing installation kits that have the other pieces (threaded rod and nuts, drive plates) needed to make a functional replacement kit if it comes to that.
Thanks Bob, I found the two items needed, 3 and 3J. About $200 for those bits.

A wooden crate made from hard wood with the case suspended in the middle could work. But I imagine the finished product would likely triple the total weight and end up costing a fortune to ship.
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The blow-molded plastic case is subject to damage from the pieces inside, more than outer case damage. All it takes is a drop or a throw when shipped to split the inner panels with the little dividers molded in. I thought about just filling the void in each section with low-expansion foam, to support the inner panels. Or a shipable box with foam innards, and hot-wired cutouts for the pieces. Along the way for mine, users have been adding some convenient pieces, like a bearing splitter with a draw bar and jackbolts for the inner bearing ring that likes to stay on the hub. A few other handy bits are in there as well. I was just a couple days ago admiring the cardboard box on the garage shelf that's holding all the pieces now.

As far as a plywood "crate" with the bits supported in foam, it would add some weight, but percentage-wise not that big an increase really. Plus, historically, it goes to a clinic location where several cars get the bearings replaced over the course of a few weeks. Then goes on to the next location. The OC has a tool-loan program that might work for this tool. Works best with someone that has a wholesale/commercial shipping agreement with UPS or Fedex Ground. Pretty deep discounts from the walk-up rates at the counter.
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Looks like a cheaper replica available on Amazon (CTA Tools)... does this one look like it would work?
https://www.amazon.com/CTA-Tools-865...N4H8RE1R8S1K9R
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Originally Posted by Tom. M
Looks like a cheaper replica available on Amazon (CTA Tools)... does this one look like it would work?
https://www.amazon.com/CTA-Tools-865...N4H8RE1R8S1K9R

That looks interesting. Considering the horseshoe piece is $150 on its own this is a good deal if the quality is on par.
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Well...I ordered it since I've been waiting to do my rear bearings since like 2014 LOL... I'll post up once I get it and see how it works....
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Originally Posted by Tom. M
Well...I ordered it since I've been waiting to do my rear bearings since like 2014 LOL... I'll post up once I get it and see how it works....
Your new garage is gonna have some cool tools.
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Originally Posted by supercedar
Your new garage is gonna have some cool tools.
LOL...Get this..ran across a guy who is thinking about picking up a bunch of 4 post lifts from a place down in AZ. The kicker is...these are 4 post....three car stacker!!!
I'm measuring the max height in my garage to see if I can even swing one of these...would cure my car storage problem LOL...
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Got it yesterday. Looks and feels pretty substantial... Here's a pic...for those that have the Sir Tools kit, how does this set compare ?
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Originally Posted by Tom. M
Got it yesterday. Looks and feels pretty substantial... Here's a pic...for those that have the Sir Tools kit, how does this set compare ?
Looks exactly like the SirTool kit I have but more complete. These are not available on Amazon now, what was the price when you picked it up?
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https://www.amazon.com/CTA-Tools-865...1Z4AYBATVKEHKV

I just ordered one @ 415
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Originally Posted by SeanR
Looks exactly like the SirTool kit I have but more complete. These are not available on Amazon now, what was the price when you picked it up?
same link that Adam posted, $415 delivered.


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