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Old 09-01-2016, 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by pht9
Nice work Phil, well documented

I was interested about the spring references. I checked my SE and the front springs are coded a brown/orange colour, probably more brown than orange

Mine is a very early chassis number first registered March 88

Could you post a picture of yours, are they a bright orange that is clearly identified ?
Don't hesitate to share pictures and/or the VIN of your car. We know have a nice database about these cars. Except that we don't know a car registered in March 1988...

Is your car red, by chance?
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I ask this because I have recently started to wonder if there was a SE prototype...
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Originally Posted by ROG100
According to PET the M637 springs are orange.
All others should be brown.
I will check my SE this weekend.
But according to the PET, M637 also have a specific fuel return line (928 356 189 00). Except that this return line is only for cars without AC.

Thank you for checking your SE this weekend.
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Brown springs
Old 09-01-2016, 08:08 AM
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Three brown marks front spring, hardest one execpt the orange one.
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Old 09-01-2016, 01:23 PM
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Great work Phil!. So important to keep the rare special cars in running condition.
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Would you class these as Orange or Brown ?

Old 09-02-2016, 10:27 AM
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Yellow

But because I have not heard of yellow marks nor three orange marks springs, I guess they are in fact 3X brown.
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Please have a look at this page:

http://www.cosmetique-auto.com/viewt...hp?f=6&t=9039/

The car is the former "E709LOW", aka Derek Bell's 1987 preproduction CS.

I think we can see a one brown mark spring on some pictures, taken during a big cleaning session just after that the current owner has bought it in the UK.

By the way, if someone would like to buy this car...

https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/235...w_lot/4978143/
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In the factory build specification for my car, it describes 'shortened' springs
Are the Orange marked springs shorter than 3xBrown ?, maybe they were replaced in the past ?

my car has a low ride height


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What is the VIN of your car?

Is this document related only to your car and who has written it?
I ask because if the graduated top tinted windscreen was a standard equipment for the SE (and not the CS), I'm 100% sure that the SE have a cruise control (Tempostat).
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its 92ZJS841630

The document is a copy of factory communication to Porsche Cars GB

Do you think 'shortened' springs refers to the M637 Orange spring, and that the springs currently fitted to my car were replaced at some time in the past ?

Maybe Phil could measure the length of his NOS pair, and we can determine if the free lengths are different
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Great, so you own the very first production SE!

I have reasons to believe that it was modified from new...
Please send me an email or MP so we could discuss about this.
Old 09-05-2016, 02:45 AM
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finally got round to looking at the springs on my orange car which should be the orange marked ones I bought a few years ago, but I cannot see any paint marks on them at all.
I will take them out to fully inspect next year.

BUT i now have a bad feeling i put them on Rogers car as it was around the time when the orange one caught fire that i put new red bogie shock absorbers on Rogers
as i had to fit a pair of new front Bilsteins to the orange one and i could have swopped the springs from my orange car to Rogers SE

if Rogers has new springs on then i have done that, if they look original and rusty then i did not.

i measured the thickness of the ones pictured and they are .25mm thicker than some 3 brown marked ones i have spare, which i would guess woul just be a thicker coat of powder coat having been applied.

A while ago i had the privilege of seeing and sitting in the 1st SE in the VIN range. if you are still that owner it was nice to meet you and give you my opinion on it- although under sad circumstances.

am still waiting for the pre made up passenger side door lock from Porsche to arrive, but have finally go all the new water hoses that are still available from Porsche so they will be next years jobs, along with new ignition leads and caps etc and a clutch, so next year is not going to be cheap, but it could be worse.

cheers
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Roger, do you have the orange marked springs on your car?


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