Ad0911

Indeed I am living near Rotterdam! Have we met? I live 3 miles east of Porsche Centrum Rotterdam , where they serve the best coffee in town!
The Porsche dealer is just outside the emission zone so you can get there. So many garages in the city centre are losing business now because people can't take their cars there. And many people can't drive their clasdic cars there. i am living outside the emission zone but I only have to wait 2 years. Having said tgat, I never go into Rotterdam by car. The subway is far better.

bronto

Why banned? Is it putting out too much of a particular pollutant or is a particular type/age of car banned by rule?

zaevor2000

It's all about the Benjamins $$$


Every new statute is another revenue stream...

Ad0911

Basically dieselcars build before 2001 and petrolcars build before july 1992 are banned. You can get a permit for 1 day for approx EUR 25

wopfe

Ad no we did not, but we should! I live in Blijdorp. Anyway its a lot of politics and nothing else. I think it will be in place for a year and then probably they going to change the rules again (i hope) its quite expensive for the city and it will not change anything in getting beter air here...
Again, i am not against better air, i hate the way politics use it to do marketing for them selves. D*cks.

Ad0911

It seems to be a case of symbol politics to make a statement to the public. Or put in action by someone who just hates the smell of old car exhaust with one bad example in mind.

But I would like to propose a place to meet sometime. I am allowed to enter the city in my 1999 Audi TT roadster "baseball" edition also known as "Mokassin".

wopfe

Ad we should, lets talk 928 soon

Fox_

The rise in the radical left in Western Europe is quite disconcerting.

Then again radical leftist authoritarianism is what the people of Western Europe vote for.

Not to say we don't have our own issues across the pond.


Vote exit.

Unelected bureaucrats have no business setting policy in sovereign nations.

wopfe

Well eh, thing is: its not a Dutch or even an European law. (Europe law could prevent this).

This is a Rotterdam local plan, thats why its so crazy. I do nothing wrong if you look at the Dutch law.

Vilhuer

All it takes is arrival of one large ship into port of Rotterdam and all passenger car related pollution savings are insignificant marginal tinkering. Banning 928's is same as preventing all ships from coming in unless they run on LNG.

SwedeInSiam

We need to be "clean" nowadays and run on Low sulphur fuel (MGO) in EU ports.

Vilhuer

Yes but engines in many ships are still same old ones as are 928 and old diesel Merc engines. Low sulphur fuel is same as running diesel cars on biodiesel etc. Not banning them completely.

DKWalser

What's really ridiculous is all this worry about an historically small rise in temperature over the last 100 years. It was hotter during Roman times than it is today. Over much of earth's history, there were no polar ice caps. (We're still in the Little Ice Age that started after the Medieval Warm Period. Earth's temps have not yet fully recovered from their decline at the start of the ice age.)

Human activity didn't cause the warmth of Roman times, nor did it cause the Little Ice Age, but we're supposed to believe that human activity (after decades of environmental laws restricting air pollution) is now to blame for a slight rise in temperature and that, this time, the rising temperatures bode ill rather than good fortune? Nor did human activity cause the measured rise in temperatures on mars. Hmm, what could cause temperatures to rise on earth and mars (and elsewhere in the solar system) at the same time? Answer: It's NOT my SUV!

SwedeInSiam

They are worse, That's why I put "clean"

The Forgotten On

Cars run so cleanly now I don't see why there haven't been stricter laws on ships. They are the real polluters, not a few old cars.

They are the reason that Los Angeles has bad smog; along with other port cities like Rotterdam.