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Old 05-10-2016, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by James Bailey
The real question is WHY WOULD IT WORK ??? as Lizard pointed out needs a "couple small changes to the wiring" . That swap is NOT PLUG AND PLAY....and trying to do it without having wiring diagrams is like driving from California to New York without a map !
He doesn't have the WSM wiring diagrams? Whoa.
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If that 12 pin is for the IMS, it'll need to be connected to the unit or jumpered for the injectors to be powered. The 12V comes from the 87 pin of the LH relay which is picked and provides power from the 30 bus. Even if you jump the LH relay, the IMS missing will still not send 12V power to the injectors.

Check for 12V on the red wire of the IMS connector. If you have it there, you have power going through the LH relay. If no 12V at that red wire, the LH is not being fired by the EZK.
Old 05-10-2016, 01:21 PM
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I have checked for spark and no spark. Will change the green and white wire's next. What is ims as I don't know what that is?
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Oh boy....

did you even bother to check for 12V on the red wire?
Old 05-10-2016, 01:54 PM
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again, this is not a "plug and play" drop in you are doing. you have some serious wiring to figure out. granted its not that much compared to a complete aftermarket set up, but i would stop. disconnect. and get the wiring diagrams for both years, and start seeing what is the same, and what needs to be changed.
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There is no power at red wire. I hear the relay clicking when I turn the key.
Old 05-10-2016, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by James Bailey
....and trying to do it without having wiring diagrams is like driving from California to New York without a map !
Actually, you just get on the big road and stay on it, head towards where the sun goes down and stop when the land ends.

Changing from an S3 motor to an S4, however, is complicated.

One of those "if you really have to ask how to do it, you need qualified help."
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Originally Posted by dragonrob
There is no power at red wire. I hear the relay clicking when I turn the key.
You hear A relay click.

Anyway, you've got a lot of work ahead. Way beyond the scope of just this one issue. I think you'll need pro help from here on.
Old 05-10-2016, 03:00 PM
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Well I guess that I'm out of luck I have been working on this car for about a year fix it then something else breaks I started with tourqe tube the car had tbf so I found this engine and put all I can afford in it .I guess I will have to just let it sit. I really wanted to keep it going .thanks Rob.
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If you want to get the wiring prints, and go through systems sequentially, I believe it can be done, but this is not a Saturday task. You are facing things that others have faced, and it's fixable but not without some wiring diagrams, and knowledge of the dual computer wiring of this car. If you didn't get the IMS relay board from the donor car, try to get that now, it's going to be important.

We could start by jumpering a bunch of stuff, but who knows? maybe we'll make it worse.
Old 05-10-2016, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by docmirror
maybe we'll make it worse.
Yup.

One wrong wire crossed and poof....fried brains.
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I would cut my losses (time etc), and see if you can't sell that 89 motor and get the correct one so you have a true plug and play project. by far the easier of the two options.
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Thanks again I have been trying to find the Ims relay board but haven't found any .I will try 928 int.thanks Rob.
Old 05-10-2016, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin Joe
Actually, you just get on the big road and stay on it, head towards where the sun goes down and stop when the land ends.
Some help you are!! You are going to send him in circles from California and back to California since the sun sets in the West.
Old 05-10-2016, 08:28 PM
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Don't give up.
If you have the harness with the IMS relay, just bypass the relay a quick search will show you.

Make sure the two large green/white wires are switched for their connections or the car will be firing the wrong coil for the cylinder.


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