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Old 04-30-2016, 03:49 AM
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I purchased a engine gasket set for my 1984 red porsche 928 automatic.
The problem I see coming is that none of the parts are labelled. Does anyone have a list of the parts so I can label them.

I'm not a big mechanic just getting into this. I purchased the Manuals.

My car runs but leaks oil on driver side. So my plan is to start taking car apart and I want to replace the timing belt, water pump, and engine gaskets, head gaskets. I've read that cam seals leak and I'm not sure if these come in the gasket set.

Thanks for any information.
I also ordered the timing tensioner and the flywheel lock.
Look forward to working on this.

Thanks

Mike
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Originally Posted by MWENDL1
I'm not a big mechanic just getting into this.
Mike
OoooooKay... well good luck with that.


I am certain you are going to find lots of great help on the list.

Oh and, congrats on the new ride too.
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Go thru the part catalog - you can find it through linking here, it is a pdf: http://www.porsche.com/usa/accessori...artscatalogue/.

All part numbers are shown, as well as blow ups of where/how they go together. Also, call Roger for the Morehouse CD of work shop manuals. You will want that too for a job like this. It is less than $100 IIRC.
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Where did you get the gasket set from?

Usually, when I get stuff, the little, easy to confuse stuff is in individual bags. Stuff like head gaskets or cam tower gaskets aren't always, but they are kinda hard to confuse.

Between the PET (post 3) and the WSM (shop manual) you should be able to figure it out. There's a link in the "New Visitor" sticky to download the WSM, or you can get the Moorehouse CD-ROM set from Roger at 928s R Us.
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Make sure your rubber thrust washers are good(all of them), otherwise the bottom ones can leak onto the exhaust and smoke. I chased this problem, thinking it was the gasket that was leaking.
Enjoy your car.
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Hi Mike, and welcome to the group!

If you haven't already done so, reading the new visitors thread will guide you to our favorite 928 parts vendors. They cater to our group with a lot of extra knowledge and support than you can get anywhere else. And they will discuss your project scope with you when you call, to make sure you get the right stuff for your project. Without 928 International, 928srus, 928 Specialists and 928 Motorsports, it would be a lot less fun owning the cars.

With the workshop manual (WSM) and the exploded views in the PET (parts catalog), you'll get a reasonable idea of where the pieces fit. There are a few particular spots where the aftermarket has come up with better solutions, and one is in the cam tower area. Greg Brown offers the upgraded gaskets, which I think you can get through 928 International or 928srus. They give you a MUCH BETTER chance of ending up without oil leaks in that area.

As I replied to your post in the injectors thread, you will want to pull the engine for the work that you mention. It sounds like more work to take it out, but in fact it's way less work, net, than trying to do things over the fenders and into the hole where the engine sits in the car.
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Thank you everyone for your input. I'm not sure where I ordered the gasket set, but know it was through one of the venders. I'd have to check my cc receipts. The parts are seperated just not labelled. I didn't open it yet so maybe there are labels that I can't see. So I wasn't sure what all the small washers were for etc. The big ones I can figure out. The parts link will help a lot!!!! Thank you.
I don't think I can't pull the engine due to space constraints, but I have one fended off which helps to gain access.

I think my problem I just started ordering parts online instead of speaking with someone. Next time I order parts I'm going to call so I can discuss the car in detail.

Thank you everyone for your help.


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I just finished putting together my '84 engine and used this same Reinz gasket set. Everything fit well, seemed to be good quality. Honestly, rather than look up each individual part number, what I did was for each old gasket that I removed I sifted through and found the "new" version that looked like the old one.

Some will be obvious like the manifold gasgets, oil pan, water pump. Some will not be obvious if you aren't used to 928s (thermostat O-ring and inner seal). But whatever old gasket you replace, just pull out the one from the kit that matches it. You will spend a ton of time trying to catalog each individual piece.

For me it all worked fine. There are two items the kit seems to be missing, which is the distributor seal and the gasket behind the timing belt tensioner. Maybe most people don't consider these to be part of an engine seal kit, but I had to order them separately.

Good luck and welcome to the shark tank. The water is scary at first, but everyone here is helpful and you won't find a better automotive support community.
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Hi Mike, welcome aboard!

You are lucky in that there is an active group of owners in the Bay Area who can help you as you sort out your car. Join the Norcal 928 Owners group on Facebook, and for sure bring your car to Sharks in the Park in Berkeley the first Saturday in June.

Are you planning on pulling the engine for this work? If so and you haven't done it yet I'm sure you can recruit some help in doing so as several of us have already had the pleasure of doing so.

Edited to add: Oops, didn't see that you had already responded that you don't plan on pulling the engine.
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Thanks for the advice. I didn't want to pull the engine because I;ve never done anything like that before. Plans changed... After trying to take off cam cover, the bolts underneath were too hard to access with allen wrench. So, I am now prepping car to pull the engine.

Hard part thus far was removing bolts to exhaust. One was seized and I sprayed it with liquid grease but it didn't help. The bolt was hard to reach and eventually I used a combination of a drill and a chisel to remove the bolt.

I have also disconnected started. I took off bell housing cover to see the plate. I started to loosen the bolts, but the whole thing moves when I try. So, now I'm waiting to borrow my friend's engine lift to get this engine out!
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You don't need to pull the starter, just disconnect the harness there and feed it over and to the front of the crossmember.

One other piece of advice is to disconnect the fuel injection harness from the engine and drape it over the passenger fender rather than deal with feeding the ends through the firewall.

When do you think you will be ready to pull it?
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Thanks Kevin,

Ready to pull. Just wanting for my friend to have some time so I can borrow his engine hoist. I don't want to disconnect the final items until I have that ready to go.
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Pulling the engine is pretty straightforward if everything's properly disconnected, the main challenge will be to get the flywheel to clear the bellhousing. If you are following the Workshop Manual then you've already levered the transmissing towards the rear of the car, but make sure you jack up the front of the torque tube and then wedge a block of wood between the torque tube and the front brace. Then when you start lifting the engine tilt it heavily front to back, even then it will probably still be barely hung up, but a little gentle persuasion should get it clear. From there it's a piece of cake.

Good luck, and don't hesitate to post questions if you run into blockers.
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Two suggestion.

1) Take LOTS of pictures from all angles. There is a nest of vacuum hoses. Since I just finished tearing my 84 down and putting it back together so its still pretty fresh in my head. I'd be glad to upload my photo file album to Dropbox if you'd like to down load them and take a look. Just PM me your email address.

2)Buy one of Sean's harnesses through Roger. You won't want to. I didn't want to. I tried to avoid it because other costs had eaten up my budget. But I can almost guarantee the wire coatings in the sheath near the alternator are crumbling. They have been baking for 30 years. In the end I'm very glad I just bit the bullet and bought one. The new harness will keep it happy for another 30 years. If you absolutely can't pick up a new harness, be very careful removing the old one with minimal bending. Leave the harness in place while you pull the engine and try to remove as much in the way before removing the harness.

You will not be able to buy a fuel injection harness, or if you find one, I THINK they are around $2500 last time I saw. 928MS used to post reman FI harnesses on their site, but that seems to be no longer there. So be very careful with the MAF and FI plugs. Maybe the cost was just too high.

Good luck!
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MAF and injector plugs can be renewed with replacements from Roger using good crimping tools (several threads on the subject can be found via search here.)


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