Hey, you.. How much experience do you actually have ?
#16
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Bought the GT back in 1998. Was inspired while on the Porschfans list by the likes of Phil Tong, Dave Roberts and several other during my search. Then drove it to Witichia KS in 2000 for the first 928oc convention.
Was silly enough to to listen to Dave Lloyd and do a track day at Watkins Glen. Became a very slippery slope.
Bought the 80 EuroS with a blown motor in 2001, became a PCA DE instructor and started club racing in 2003. Experience building a race car with 5.0l CIs engine and then the 6.4l stroked. Rebuilt a 5 speed and differential. Completely change the 80 EuroS to body to a wide fender S4 look.
Helped With Lou Otto's PSD flush write up on the 928OC site.
Was chosen to the PCNA Techinal Committee for the 928
For several years raced with Stan Shaw and Dave Lloyd. Raced at Road America with Dave, Mark Anderson and Joe Fan.
Education -BS Electrical Engineering.
Self taught my car skills by first rebuilding a 1968 Dodge Charger. Body work and building A 383 big block engine. Also rebuilt a 85 Chrysler 2.2 turbo engine.
To many cars to list, but the current besides the 928s is now the 2009 Cayenne Turbo has had me busy with one failure of a pulley and maintenance.
Was silly enough to to listen to Dave Lloyd and do a track day at Watkins Glen. Became a very slippery slope.
Bought the 80 EuroS with a blown motor in 2001, became a PCA DE instructor and started club racing in 2003. Experience building a race car with 5.0l CIs engine and then the 6.4l stroked. Rebuilt a 5 speed and differential. Completely change the 80 EuroS to body to a wide fender S4 look.
Helped With Lou Otto's PSD flush write up on the 928OC site.
Was chosen to the PCNA Techinal Committee for the 928
For several years raced with Stan Shaw and Dave Lloyd. Raced at Road America with Dave, Mark Anderson and Joe Fan.
Education -BS Electrical Engineering.
Self taught my car skills by first rebuilding a 1968 Dodge Charger. Body work and building A 383 big block engine. Also rebuilt a 85 Chrysler 2.2 turbo engine.
To many cars to list, but the current besides the 928s is now the 2009 Cayenne Turbo has had me busy with one failure of a pulley and maintenance.
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Bought first 1989 928 S4 in 1996. It was a low mileage (23K) one owner. Originally had work done at Porsche dealer late 90's. Started doing my own maintenance around 2000.
I have done basic mechanical work, rotors, pads, fuel filter, oil changes, and electrical work HVAC repair and vacuum actuators. Big stuff ( motor mounts, pan gasket, A/C) done by indie shops
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Material Science engineering background/education and mechanically inclined.
I have had 2 928s (second 1991 928 GT bought with 24K miles!)
Restored a 1967 Austin Healey 3000 back in 1977, body off, (I miss that car!)
I have done basic mechanical work, rotors, pads, fuel filter, oil changes, and electrical work HVAC repair and vacuum actuators. Big stuff ( motor mounts, pan gasket, A/C) done by indie shops
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Material Science engineering background/education and mechanically inclined.
I have had 2 928s (second 1991 928 GT bought with 24K miles!)
Restored a 1967 Austin Healey 3000 back in 1977, body off, (I miss that car!)
#18
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Bought my first 928 in 2001. It was an 82. After paying for a clutch job on that, I decided it would be better for me to learn how to do it myself. Prior to this car, I had only done brakes and oil changes on my own on my other cars which were not remarkable.
After about 4 years with that car, I bought my '91 GT. Then I supercharged it. I think that's what threw me into the deep end. About two years into the supercharger, it blew a head gasket. That was the first 928 motor I yanked out and rebuilt. I've since done that same motor again, but for other reasons.
I also own an 85 Euro (16v) with a supercharger that I also had to pull the motor and replace it... twice.
I also own an 85 (32v) race car that so far has only needed minor mechanical work.
I've helped many of the local 928 guy out and have worked on at least 10-15 other 928s. Oh yeah... I also owned an 87 for a while... twice (long story).
Degree of 928-specific repair/restoration experience,
I've touched every part on a 928 (except the early CIS cars). The only thing I've not done (yet) is take apart a transmission.
Using Bob's scale, I'm a 7.
Technical education,
I have a bachelor degree in Marketing and Japanese, and Masters in Finance. I currently run a company that produces software for computational biology.
Outside technical or shop skills which are relevant,
None.
Number of 928s you have repaired/restored,
It's got to be near 20 if not more.
Auto restoration/repair work other than the 928.
I owned a 1966 Jag E-Type. Should have never sold it, just like my Apple stock.
Bought my first 928 in 2001. It was an 82. After paying for a clutch job on that, I decided it would be better for me to learn how to do it myself. Prior to this car, I had only done brakes and oil changes on my own on my other cars which were not remarkable.
After about 4 years with that car, I bought my '91 GT. Then I supercharged it. I think that's what threw me into the deep end. About two years into the supercharger, it blew a head gasket. That was the first 928 motor I yanked out and rebuilt. I've since done that same motor again, but for other reasons.
I also own an 85 Euro (16v) with a supercharger that I also had to pull the motor and replace it... twice.
I also own an 85 (32v) race car that so far has only needed minor mechanical work.
I've helped many of the local 928 guy out and have worked on at least 10-15 other 928s. Oh yeah... I also owned an 87 for a while... twice (long story).
Degree of 928-specific repair/restoration experience,
I've touched every part on a 928 (except the early CIS cars). The only thing I've not done (yet) is take apart a transmission.
Using Bob's scale, I'm a 7.
Technical education,
I have a bachelor degree in Marketing and Japanese, and Masters in Finance. I currently run a company that produces software for computational biology.
Outside technical or shop skills which are relevant,
None.
Number of 928s you have repaired/restored,
It's got to be near 20 if not more.
Auto restoration/repair work other than the 928.
I owned a 1966 Jag E-Type. Should have never sold it, just like my Apple stock.
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1.5 years.
Degree of 928-specific repair/restoration experience
TB/WP (my introduction to serious mechanical work.)
CV boots (my introduction to serious filth, and tough nuts.)
MM/OPG (can it get worse than this?)
Shocks (incidental aggravations to preceding two subjects.)
Polishing out swirls (largely unsuccessful thus far.)
Intake/top end refresh (oh, the humanity! Half done at this point.)
Technical education
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, B.S. 1974, Ph.D. 1979 - Materials Engineering
Outside technical or shop skills which are relevant
None, but dammit, I was a Superalloy Metallurgist! That's gotta mean something.
General familiarity with jet engines; no wrenching.
Previous auto experience limited to brake jobs, simple water pumps, etc.
Bicycle stuff, including nerdy software stuff - bikecalculator.com
Number of 928s you have repaired/restored
One, which I hope is enough to scratch the itch.
Auto restoration/repair work other than the 928
My successful (so far) work on the 928 has given me the confidence to buy old cars. An Austin-Healey Bugeye Sprite is currently scattered about my garage, after UXO removal.
1.5 years.
Degree of 928-specific repair/restoration experience
TB/WP (my introduction to serious mechanical work.)
CV boots (my introduction to serious filth, and tough nuts.)
MM/OPG (can it get worse than this?)
Shocks (incidental aggravations to preceding two subjects.)
Polishing out swirls (largely unsuccessful thus far.)
Intake/top end refresh (oh, the humanity! Half done at this point.)
Technical education
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, B.S. 1974, Ph.D. 1979 - Materials Engineering
Outside technical or shop skills which are relevant
None, but dammit, I was a Superalloy Metallurgist! That's gotta mean something.
General familiarity with jet engines; no wrenching.
Previous auto experience limited to brake jobs, simple water pumps, etc.
Bicycle stuff, including nerdy software stuff - bikecalculator.com
Number of 928s you have repaired/restored
One, which I hope is enough to scratch the itch.
Auto restoration/repair work other than the 928
My successful (so far) work on the 928 has given me the confidence to buy old cars. An Austin-Healey Bugeye Sprite is currently scattered about my garage, after UXO removal.
#20
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Time,
Owned a 928 since 2005. Rennlist since 2011
Degree of 928-specific repair/restoration experience,
Much.
Technical education,
Biochemistry, Medicine, Emergency Medicine/Trauma.
Outside technical or shop skills which are relevant,
Home carpentry, plumbing, electrical; moderate gunsmithing, repair of humans (even dogs when needed).
Number of 928s you have repaired/restored,
86.5 from 2005-2010 until cylinder head issue from a short hose burst and overheat; 87 since
Auto restoration/repair work other than the 928.
Keep my F250 with 260k miles in good shape and wife's Enclave (POS) going.
Time,
Owned a 928 since 2005. Rennlist since 2011
Degree of 928-specific repair/restoration experience,
Much.
Technical education,
Biochemistry, Medicine, Emergency Medicine/Trauma.
Outside technical or shop skills which are relevant,
Home carpentry, plumbing, electrical; moderate gunsmithing, repair of humans (even dogs when needed).
Number of 928s you have repaired/restored,
86.5 from 2005-2010 until cylinder head issue from a short hose burst and overheat; 87 since
Auto restoration/repair work other than the 928.
Keep my F250 with 260k miles in good shape and wife's Enclave (POS) going.
#21
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Time: Purchased by 1980 in Feb 2014
Degree of 928-specific repair/restoration experience:
Technical education: I'm a civil engineer, so I design the roads we drive, does that count
Outside technical or shop skills which are relevant: Worked a couple years part time in a research lab in college, where I assembled custom data acquisition equipment. This was a wide range of work from assembling circuit boards to metal fabrication. Also, lots and lots of YouTube.
Number of 928s you have repaired/restored: I'm on my first and still have a long way to go.
Auto restoration/repair work other than the 928: Very limited before I bought my shark. Mostly electrical related items. Hobby in High School and College was car stereo. I am now doing all the work on my family vehicles.
Degree of 928-specific repair/restoration experience:
- steering and suspension - ball joints, control arms, coilovers,
- Half Shaft rebuild
- Water bridge - including replacement after having to cut it off.
- interior restoration in progress
- dash pod instruments repair
- electrical, electrical, electrical
- power steering hose rebuild.
- Brake caliper rebuild and service
Technical education: I'm a civil engineer, so I design the roads we drive, does that count
Outside technical or shop skills which are relevant: Worked a couple years part time in a research lab in college, where I assembled custom data acquisition equipment. This was a wide range of work from assembling circuit boards to metal fabrication. Also, lots and lots of YouTube.
Number of 928s you have repaired/restored: I'm on my first and still have a long way to go.
Auto restoration/repair work other than the 928: Very limited before I bought my shark. Mostly electrical related items. Hobby in High School and College was car stereo. I am now doing all the work on my family vehicles.
#22
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Time,
Total 928 ownership: One car. 11 years this September. Been on Rennlist since 2006 if I remember well.
Degree of 928-specific repair/restoration experience,
I do as much as I can and get help when needed from a local shop and friends.
My personal larger jobs were:
- Front and rear shocks replacement. Including caliper repaint, cleaning, re-plating, powder coating everything around. Didn't do the powder coating and plating myself. That one was a hell of a job as many things were badly seized. I suspect the car was driven during a few winters when new contrary to what PO told me!
- Intake (twice) and valve covers refresh. Including powder coating. Cleaning around and re-plating few bits here and there. New coils, caps, wires...
- Water pump and timing belt twice. Again, cleaning around and re-plating few bits here and there. Went with the PKT and Ed's pump in 2010.
- Motor mount and oil pan gasket. With the help of a friend and his lift!
- Seats and other interior parts re-dying, plastic parts re-covering (3M di noc) after Paul Champagne did a few for me!
- All regular fluid change.
- ... And many, many other smaller things to keep the car in a respectable (to me) shape.
Technical education,
None.
Outside technical or shop skills which are relevant,
I learned EVERYTHING that I now on the 928 here. Without you guys, this whole adventure would never had been possible. A BIG THANKS!
I am mechanically inclined, detail oriented and somewhat of a perfectionist too but the main thing is that I'm passionate about the model. It all starts there...
Number of 928s you have repaired/restored,
Mine only. I have helped a friend with his car a little bit but that's all.
Auto restoration/repair work other than the 928.
None beside washing them!
I learned quite fast that if I wanted to bring the car to where I wanted it to be, I would need to do the work as much as I can myself.
This all came possible with Rennlist and all it's invaluable members/users.
Again, a BIG THANKS to you all.
Total 928 ownership: One car. 11 years this September. Been on Rennlist since 2006 if I remember well.
Degree of 928-specific repair/restoration experience,
I do as much as I can and get help when needed from a local shop and friends.
My personal larger jobs were:
- Front and rear shocks replacement. Including caliper repaint, cleaning, re-plating, powder coating everything around. Didn't do the powder coating and plating myself. That one was a hell of a job as many things were badly seized. I suspect the car was driven during a few winters when new contrary to what PO told me!
- Intake (twice) and valve covers refresh. Including powder coating. Cleaning around and re-plating few bits here and there. New coils, caps, wires...
- Water pump and timing belt twice. Again, cleaning around and re-plating few bits here and there. Went with the PKT and Ed's pump in 2010.
- Motor mount and oil pan gasket. With the help of a friend and his lift!
- Seats and other interior parts re-dying, plastic parts re-covering (3M di noc) after Paul Champagne did a few for me!
- All regular fluid change.
- ... And many, many other smaller things to keep the car in a respectable (to me) shape.
Technical education,
None.
Outside technical or shop skills which are relevant,
I learned EVERYTHING that I now on the 928 here. Without you guys, this whole adventure would never had been possible. A BIG THANKS!
I am mechanically inclined, detail oriented and somewhat of a perfectionist too but the main thing is that I'm passionate about the model. It all starts there...
Number of 928s you have repaired/restored,
Mine only. I have helped a friend with his car a little bit but that's all.
Auto restoration/repair work other than the 928.
None beside washing them!
I learned quite fast that if I wanted to bring the car to where I wanted it to be, I would need to do the work as much as I can myself.
This all came possible with Rennlist and all it's invaluable members/users.
Again, a BIG THANKS to you all.
#23
1 928, years owned: 9.
928 resto: transmission "refresh" (input shaft bearing noisy when bought the car, replaced syncros and other main bearings at time), half shaft rebuild, rear wheel bearings, clutch and clutch hydraulics, engine seals, belts/waterpump, cam cover reseal/new galley plugs, intake refresh, shocks and bushings all round, engine bay restored after engine fire: new cooling system incl 928MS radiator, electromotive system, redid cam covers and intake refresh, restored/replaced under hood wiring…bunch more. Various electrical problems fixed over years (my achilles heal but I'm learning), CE board refresh, refresh HVAC, power steering pump rebld and hose replacement, several smaller performance/cosmetic jobs: short shifter, X-pipe/cats, new stereo. Haven't outsourced much: a little minor paint work, tires, speedo repair…
Education: Physician.
Technical: no formal technical education. First car was a British car. Rover 2000. No dealer or parts available at time in hometown area so scavenge parts and fix it or walk! Worked as a pump jockey back then i(high school) and when not pumping gas helped the mechanics and learned a fair bit of the basics of wrenching….
Other automotive work: owned maintained several older cars in the '70's-'80's (Rover, Ford Cortinas, VW beetle….so, basically a 911!, Datsun 240Z, VW Camper,…..always did my own maintenance/repairs).
Maintain and repair wife's '85 944. Done much of the same work as on my 928 except for the engine fire stuff.
Almost completed ground up bare metal resto of 1965 Mercedes 220Sb. Have done everything myself except chroming, differential rebuild, driveshaft rebuild, and engine machining.
928 resto: transmission "refresh" (input shaft bearing noisy when bought the car, replaced syncros and other main bearings at time), half shaft rebuild, rear wheel bearings, clutch and clutch hydraulics, engine seals, belts/waterpump, cam cover reseal/new galley plugs, intake refresh, shocks and bushings all round, engine bay restored after engine fire: new cooling system incl 928MS radiator, electromotive system, redid cam covers and intake refresh, restored/replaced under hood wiring…bunch more. Various electrical problems fixed over years (my achilles heal but I'm learning), CE board refresh, refresh HVAC, power steering pump rebld and hose replacement, several smaller performance/cosmetic jobs: short shifter, X-pipe/cats, new stereo. Haven't outsourced much: a little minor paint work, tires, speedo repair…
Education: Physician.
Technical: no formal technical education. First car was a British car. Rover 2000. No dealer or parts available at time in hometown area so scavenge parts and fix it or walk! Worked as a pump jockey back then i(high school) and when not pumping gas helped the mechanics and learned a fair bit of the basics of wrenching….
Other automotive work: owned maintained several older cars in the '70's-'80's (Rover, Ford Cortinas, VW beetle….so, basically a 911!, Datsun 240Z, VW Camper,…..always did my own maintenance/repairs).
Maintain and repair wife's '85 944. Done much of the same work as on my 928 except for the engine fire stuff.
Almost completed ground up bare metal resto of 1965 Mercedes 220Sb. Have done everything myself except chroming, differential rebuild, driveshaft rebuild, and engine machining.
#24
Time
’84 project brought home in 2013. ’87 in 2015.
Degree of 928-specific repair/restoration experience
Still learning my way through the vehicles. Have done a lot more on the 928s than any prior cars, but would only rate abilities at 3 or 4 out of 10 (I’m a 4 at taking them apart but only a 3 at putting them back together). Would have given up long ago but for the information on Rennlist.
Technical education
Originally computer science. I’m now an attorney and work often with patents.
Outside technical or shop skills which are relevant
Hmm. I’ve done some woodworking and built the cabinets in our garage. That probably doesn’t count but it did improve my tool organization.
Number of 928s you have repaired/restored
Have nearly finished disassembling a parts car (at least what remained of it when we found it) in addition to working on the ’84 and ‘87.
Auto restoration/repair work other than the 928
Some years back I owned British Leyland cars. First a Spitfire that I drove and worked on. Next an Austin Healey 100-4 that I worked on but never drove. Then an MG Midget that I drove and worked and worked and worked on.
’84 project brought home in 2013. ’87 in 2015.
Degree of 928-specific repair/restoration experience
Still learning my way through the vehicles. Have done a lot more on the 928s than any prior cars, but would only rate abilities at 3 or 4 out of 10 (I’m a 4 at taking them apart but only a 3 at putting them back together). Would have given up long ago but for the information on Rennlist.
Technical education
Originally computer science. I’m now an attorney and work often with patents.
Outside technical or shop skills which are relevant
Hmm. I’ve done some woodworking and built the cabinets in our garage. That probably doesn’t count but it did improve my tool organization.
Number of 928s you have repaired/restored
Have nearly finished disassembling a parts car (at least what remained of it when we found it) in addition to working on the ’84 and ‘87.
Auto restoration/repair work other than the 928
Some years back I owned British Leyland cars. First a Spitfire that I drove and worked on. Next an Austin Healey 100-4 that I worked on but never drove. Then an MG Midget that I drove and worked and worked and worked on.
#25
Advanced
Time,
5th year anniversary this year for the 928
Degree of 928-specific repair/restoration experience
Going to say 4. Intake refresh, fuel line replacement, basic upkeep and ongoing improvements. Done everything myself on this car but balance the wheels. Learning as I go mostly from the vast experience and help here and much of that from search.
Technical education
Chemical engineer, not much help in 928 ownership.
Outside technical or shop skills which are relevant
I am a DIYer in everything I can and have time for - houses, acreage, cars, tractors, toys etc so lots of basic skills developed here.
Number of 928s you have repaired/restored
One, often think of adding more?
Auto restoration/repair work other than the 928
Do all the work I can on my cars except main daily drivers as I can't take them off the road for long. Etype in rotisserie restoration, valiant in restoration, corvette just needs preservation and maintenance Volvo and mercedes 230 I just keep running but only go to the shop if I can't figure it out.
5th year anniversary this year for the 928
Degree of 928-specific repair/restoration experience
Going to say 4. Intake refresh, fuel line replacement, basic upkeep and ongoing improvements. Done everything myself on this car but balance the wheels. Learning as I go mostly from the vast experience and help here and much of that from search.
Technical education
Chemical engineer, not much help in 928 ownership.
Outside technical or shop skills which are relevant
I am a DIYer in everything I can and have time for - houses, acreage, cars, tractors, toys etc so lots of basic skills developed here.
Number of 928s you have repaired/restored
One, often think of adding more?
Auto restoration/repair work other than the 928
Do all the work I can on my cars except main daily drivers as I can't take them off the road for long. Etype in rotisserie restoration, valiant in restoration, corvette just needs preservation and maintenance Volvo and mercedes 230 I just keep running but only go to the shop if I can't figure it out.
#26
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8 years, 5 928's of my own, major assists with 3 others, no deep engine work, no sharktuner work, makes me a 5 or so out of 10. Have installed an 89 S4 trans in an 84 USA.
Chem E; studied the Morehouse CD's pretty extensively. Some revamp experience with 944T and 944.
Wingman on a very important mission-- https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...nd-loaded.html
Also, have "worked on" number 6, albeit just tiny bit.
Chem E; studied the Morehouse CD's pretty extensively. Some revamp experience with 944T and 944.
Wingman on a very important mission-- https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...nd-loaded.html
Also, have "worked on" number 6, albeit just tiny bit.
#27
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Time spent working on 928s:
37 years. Worked on 928s from the very beginning of the 1978 models.
Degree of 928-specific repair/restoration experience:
Can't think of a single piece on any year or model that I've not taken apart, repaired, and re-assembled....multiple times.
Technical education:
One day of auto shop in high school.
Outside technical or shop skills which are relevant:
Tig welding. Mig welding. Lathe operation. Mill operation. All facets of engine machining. I fix everything myself....from the smallest water drip to repairing my own dishwashers, washing machines, etc. Extremely proficient on electrical, both 12 volt and home electrical.
I hate drywall finishing....too much of a perfectionist to do this job....makes me crazy.....I see every tiny little flaw.
Number of 928s you have repaired/restored:
No idea. Certainly thousands.
Auto restoration/repair work other than the 928:
Know 356, 914, 911, 924, 944, 951, 964, 993 models intimately. Restored Triumphs, Ariels, Royal Infields to show winning quality.....as a hobby for many years. Know BB Chevy engines and 427 Ford engines past "casual" knowledge.
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37 years. Worked on 928s from the very beginning of the 1978 models.
Degree of 928-specific repair/restoration experience:
Can't think of a single piece on any year or model that I've not taken apart, repaired, and re-assembled....multiple times.
Technical education:
One day of auto shop in high school.
Outside technical or shop skills which are relevant:
Tig welding. Mig welding. Lathe operation. Mill operation. All facets of engine machining. I fix everything myself....from the smallest water drip to repairing my own dishwashers, washing machines, etc. Extremely proficient on electrical, both 12 volt and home electrical.
I hate drywall finishing....too much of a perfectionist to do this job....makes me crazy.....I see every tiny little flaw.
Number of 928s you have repaired/restored:
No idea. Certainly thousands.
Auto restoration/repair work other than the 928:
Know 356, 914, 911, 924, 944, 951, 964, 993 models intimately. Restored Triumphs, Ariels, Royal Infields to show winning quality.....as a hobby for many years. Know BB Chevy engines and 427 Ford engines past "casual" knowledge.
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Semi-retired, as of Feb 1, 2023.
The days of free technical advice are over.
Free consultations will no longer be available.
Will still be in the shop, isolated and exclusively working on project cars, developmental work and products, engines and transmissions.
Have fun with your 928's people!
greg brown
714 879 9072
GregBBRD@aol.com
Semi-retired, as of Feb 1, 2023.
The days of free technical advice are over.
Free consultations will no longer be available.
Will still be in the shop, isolated and exclusively working on project cars, developmental work and products, engines and transmissions.
Have fun with your 928's people!
#28
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I have not heard the story of what happened at the end of that day in auto shop, have I?
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I just "got it" at a very early age....my mom says I'd take things apart and put them back together, before I could walk.
The first day of auto shop, the instructor said that we were going to sit in the classroom and spend the entire first semester learning the name and function of the hand tools on the wall....tools I'd been using for over 10 years.
After thinking about how much I was going to enjoy that, I raised my hand and asked if I could go see my counselor.....