What Aftermarket Parts Do You Want?
10-04-2003, 03:41 PM
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I'm surprised there aren't tubular suspension parts available.
I reckon the fuel cell would be around $2000, I was heartened to find that one of the two main fuel cell makers is in Oregon, Fuel Safe | Porsche Cells. Putting all the weight 'inside the box' would be schweet...
A paintable plate for the rear license plate area to cover the holes left by removing the bumperettes.
Paintable blanks for the US side markers.
Front marker/turn signals?
MUST HAVE:
Lightweight sunroof panel! Or moonroof. Moveable or fixed.
I reckon the fuel cell would be around $2000, I was heartened to find that one of the two main fuel cell makers is in Oregon, Fuel Safe | Porsche Cells. Putting all the weight 'inside the box' would be schweet...
A paintable plate for the rear license plate area to cover the holes left by removing the bumperettes.
Paintable blanks for the US side markers.
Front marker/turn signals?
MUST HAVE:
Lightweight sunroof panel! Or moonroof. Moveable or fixed.
10-04-2003, 06:22 PM
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The upper A-arms can be rebuilt, if anyone needs them, PM me. The cost is well under what some folks ask for a used upper A-arm (early or late model).
The sunroof panel can be replaced with a carbon-fiber "blank" if you will.
I have a friend that does a fair amount of fiber work for 951s, if there is real interest, I can have him run a batch of 928 lids. He does the exact same thing with the sunroof for 944s.
I've played with doing tailights for years, perhaps I'll crank some out in the next 6 months or so, sounds like there might be enough interest to justify it.
Greg
The sunroof panel can be replaced with a carbon-fiber "blank" if you will.
I have a friend that does a fair amount of fiber work for 951s, if there is real interest, I can have him run a batch of 928 lids. He does the exact same thing with the sunroof for 944s.
I've played with doing tailights for years, perhaps I'll crank some out in the next 6 months or so, sounds like there might be enough interest to justify it.
Greg
10-04-2003, 08:51 PM
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carbon fiber/kevlar upgrades (body panels) i dont want to pay a $1000 + for a hood that you can get for a honda at $150. I also want a supercharger that is proven to work on a 16v thats does not cost over $7000. And lets talk about rim sizes i dont know about you but i live in america and most rim companies go by a standard size back spacing 1",2",3",4" and so on not 55mm my ruler doesnt read metric
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10-04-2003, 08:57 PM
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Is your 16v s2 a CIS car?
If so, there is a cheap supercharger kit for it...
If not CIS, I'm sure someone is working out the details, as we speak, to accomodate the non CIS early cars as well...
If so, there is a cheap supercharger kit for it...
If not CIS, I'm sure someone is working out the details, as we speak, to accomodate the non CIS early cars as well...
10-04-2003, 09:20 PM
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The parts I want are already available, just need that winning lottery ticket to help fund the ambition.
Carbon fiber intake.
Level II heads
Level II headers
turbos for one car
supercharger for the other
intercoolers
etc
etc
Carbon fiber intake.
Level II heads
Level II headers
turbos for one car
supercharger for the other
intercoolers
etc
etc
10-05-2003, 04:35 AM
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Not necessarily in this order:
A perfect reproduction of the factory's rootwood console and door inserts for under $1,000.
Sunbrella Cargo Covers in more colors (e.g. classic grey).
A cup holder you can install without drilling, and that can't spill on anything electrical or interfere with the legs of driver or passenger.
A speaker/amplifier combo that seamlessley replaces the old, oudtated system, offers great sound, and looks 100% stock.
"MagicStretch" - a revolutionary space-age fluid that permanently softens and allows to stretch dried and shrunken leather.
A perfect reproduction of the factory's rootwood console and door inserts for under $1,000.
Sunbrella Cargo Covers in more colors (e.g. classic grey).
A cup holder you can install without drilling, and that can't spill on anything electrical or interfere with the legs of driver or passenger.
A speaker/amplifier combo that seamlessley replaces the old, oudtated system, offers great sound, and looks 100% stock.
"MagicStretch" - a revolutionary space-age fluid that permanently softens and allows to stretch dried and shrunken leather.
10-05-2003, 10:01 AM
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Those aren't vents they are obviously shark gills
Nicole,
Stretch, smetch... I'd like to see entire replacement skins for our sHARKs.
Then, of course, I would opt for the magic oil.
An SC for the 16v, 4.5 -non CIS-engines.
I'm only looking for 40 - 80HP .
I realise that the Brain is not (re-) mappable and that we will probably be 'stuck' with either a Kickdown activator with a pop-off pressure bleeder or a throttle position sensor activator with a pop-off to control boost and
some room to intercool.
The $7000 is way to high for me though. Something under $4000.000, please.
Those lights are cool. Maybe someone can get hold of Pierre in South Africa for the lens blanks. As for the assemblies ... it won't be cheap unless you can modify existing assemblies or find a fellow sHARk junkie who enjoys making injection moulds as his/her other hobby.
If you look around ... even 'T' shirts, decals aren't exacty cheap, there has to be a profit motivation and in the case of low dollar items the manufacturer gets an ***-whoopin in shipping charges alone.
God forbid some picky soul decides to return a inexpensive product due to dislike of color, or matierial.
As to the big ticket items:
I can buy a used 4.5L from the Big Three for about the same as those $2000.00 cams.
As with all of these big $$$$ items you can get them cheaper elsewhere, but, they are available thru the Big Three to those with the bucks, or need it, shipped on the same/next day basis.
You do have to eat a little of the overhead but keep in mind there were only 50,000 or so units produced of all models so a parts supplier -in this case three or more- is a boon to our community.
Some items also stick out like sore thumbs: left cams cost more than right cams on some MY cars because they have a habit of going south quicker than the Pass. side cams. This is a parts availability issue. In another 5-10 years we simply aren't going to find parts cars handy for selective stripping, so those lucky deals we all see posted are going to disappear.
If you get into the catalogs you will notice, belt change for example, that you can spend more on Idlers and tensioner rebuild stuff than on the belt and waterpump. The Big Three are concious of costs, the availability of dying or dead sHARKs for salvage. Meanwhile, the catalogs are rife with those little seals, gaskets, hardware that you aren't going to find at the hardware store in PoDunk, Texas.
As to the engine builds, these aren't high volume sales items but they have a profit margin, too.
If it so happens that these parts become available out of a racing project because they are "cheaper by the dozen" these sales also help defray the cost of a racing project as opposed to 'one of a kind' items. In house drilled cranks, oversized pistons...same thing.
The idea of banding together for a volume buy -Brendan's Wings for example- is a great idea and I'm sure if you/we can present a volume demand the Big Three would look for a supplier assuming there is a little profit margin for them. It would, no doubt, be a case by case basis as no one wants to see a full parts bin and nothing is moving out of the store.
I don't think the Big Three can fabricate all of our want items but perhaps Jaeger or another outfit could be used as the outsource supplier.
Good idea you have here, persue it!
Those aren't vents they are obviously shark gills
Nicole,
Stretch, smetch... I'd like to see entire replacement skins for our sHARKs.
Then, of course, I would opt for the magic oil.
An SC for the 16v, 4.5 -non CIS-engines.
I'm only looking for 40 - 80HP .
I realise that the Brain is not (re-) mappable and that we will probably be 'stuck' with either a Kickdown activator with a pop-off pressure bleeder or a throttle position sensor activator with a pop-off to control boost and
some room to intercool.
The $7000 is way to high for me though. Something under $4000.000, please.
Those lights are cool. Maybe someone can get hold of Pierre in South Africa for the lens blanks. As for the assemblies ... it won't be cheap unless you can modify existing assemblies or find a fellow sHARk junkie who enjoys making injection moulds as his/her other hobby.
If you look around ... even 'T' shirts, decals aren't exacty cheap, there has to be a profit motivation and in the case of low dollar items the manufacturer gets an ***-whoopin in shipping charges alone.
God forbid some picky soul decides to return a inexpensive product due to dislike of color, or matierial.
As to the big ticket items:
I can buy a used 4.5L from the Big Three for about the same as those $2000.00 cams.
As with all of these big $$$$ items you can get them cheaper elsewhere, but, they are available thru the Big Three to those with the bucks, or need it, shipped on the same/next day basis.
You do have to eat a little of the overhead but keep in mind there were only 50,000 or so units produced of all models so a parts supplier -in this case three or more- is a boon to our community.
Some items also stick out like sore thumbs: left cams cost more than right cams on some MY cars because they have a habit of going south quicker than the Pass. side cams. This is a parts availability issue. In another 5-10 years we simply aren't going to find parts cars handy for selective stripping, so those lucky deals we all see posted are going to disappear.
If you get into the catalogs you will notice, belt change for example, that you can spend more on Idlers and tensioner rebuild stuff than on the belt and waterpump. The Big Three are concious of costs, the availability of dying or dead sHARKs for salvage. Meanwhile, the catalogs are rife with those little seals, gaskets, hardware that you aren't going to find at the hardware store in PoDunk, Texas.
As to the engine builds, these aren't high volume sales items but they have a profit margin, too.
If it so happens that these parts become available out of a racing project because they are "cheaper by the dozen" these sales also help defray the cost of a racing project as opposed to 'one of a kind' items. In house drilled cranks, oversized pistons...same thing.
The idea of banding together for a volume buy -Brendan's Wings for example- is a great idea and I'm sure if you/we can present a volume demand the Big Three would look for a supplier assuming there is a little profit margin for them. It would, no doubt, be a case by case basis as no one wants to see a full parts bin and nothing is moving out of the store.
I don't think the Big Three can fabricate all of our want items but perhaps Jaeger or another outfit could be used as the outsource supplier.
Good idea you have here, persue it!
10-05-2003, 11:30 AM
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I would like to be able to downshift the 4 speed auto to 1st manually. I would gladly pay $6-800 for the parts alone.
If anyone wants anything cast from aluminum or plastic roataional molds let me know. I know a hard working, reasonably priced pattern shop that will turn things around quickly. Maybe those taillight housings could be cast from aluminum. If so the patterns would be around $500 each (one left, one right) and the castings would be less that $40 each.
Or if you need anything made on a lathe, such as pulleys, I have a friend that can get that stuff done for a lower cost.
Andy K
If anyone wants anything cast from aluminum or plastic roataional molds let me know. I know a hard working, reasonably priced pattern shop that will turn things around quickly. Maybe those taillight housings could be cast from aluminum. If so the patterns would be around $500 each (one left, one right) and the castings would be less that $40 each.
Or if you need anything made on a lathe, such as pulleys, I have a friend that can get that stuff done for a lower cost.
Andy K
10-05-2003, 12:18 PM
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Andy! you have the Whipple Twin Screwon there?!?!?! Cool!
You have to dyno that thing.! I dont think ANY of us have seen a chart from a roots/whipple blown 928. May not be a strong as the Vortech set up , im sure, but i bet the TQ curve is great.
Bring it to Sharktoberfest as well!
You have to dyno that thing.! I dont think ANY of us have seen a chart from a roots/whipple blown 928. May not be a strong as the Vortech set up , im sure, but i bet the TQ curve is great.
Bring it to Sharktoberfest as well!
10-05-2003, 01:17 PM
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A carbon fiber sunroof insert already has been made, and was available at one time.
I have a fuel cell in my 928, and could probably create a kit, but it would not be a job for the timid. My battery is relocated, and the fill for the fuel cell is not accessible without opening the hatch, although that could be done easily but might not be cheap. The cost of $2k if buying everything new, and paying to have it installed is probably a valid estimate.
Of course many 928ers like to do everthing themselves, so much of what is done because "one of a kind". I have gone through a number of such projects with my car: http://www.928racing.net/StanShaw.htm
I have a fuel cell in my 928, and could probably create a kit, but it would not be a job for the timid. My battery is relocated, and the fill for the fuel cell is not accessible without opening the hatch, although that could be done easily but might not be cheap. The cost of $2k if buying everything new, and paying to have it installed is probably a valid estimate.
Of course many 928ers like to do everthing themselves, so much of what is done because "one of a kind". I have gone through a number of such projects with my car: http://www.928racing.net/StanShaw.htm
10-05-2003, 01:33 PM
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stan.
i already have the carbon/kevlar sunroof filler. I got it over the summer from a guy in Florida. now im looking for the rear hatch and possible hood.
Lou
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i already have the carbon/kevlar sunroof filler. I got it over the summer from a guy in Florida. now im looking for the rear hatch and possible hood.
Lou
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10-05-2003, 02:33 PM
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Stan.Shaw - locations of fuel cell and battery?
I would like to have the fuel cell 'in the back seat'. Either with fillers in Lexan quarter windows, or a fill pipe down through the sender cover and up to the stock fill location.
gbyron, onebad928s - Are your sunroof fillers removable or moveable, ie. able to be bolted to the tracks or are they riveted in?
Perhaps we could do a poll for the sunroof lid.
'John Struthers' is right, leather precut/sewn interior pieces for home installation would be ver' nice.
I would like to have the fuel cell 'in the back seat'. Either with fillers in Lexan quarter windows, or a fill pipe down through the sender cover and up to the stock fill location.
gbyron, onebad928s - Are your sunroof fillers removable or moveable, ie. able to be bolted to the tracks or are they riveted in?
Perhaps we could do a poll for the sunroof lid.
'John Struthers' is right, leather precut/sewn interior pieces for home installation would be ver' nice.
10-05-2003, 03:06 PM
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what's a back seat for? http://www.928Racing.net/http://www....t/StanShaw.htm
Fuel cell is where gas tank and battery were located, all metal removed. Battery is where passenger rear back seat was.
I would think putting a fuel cell in the back seat area (close to the driver) would not be a good idea from a safety perspective.
Fuel cell is where gas tank and battery were located, all metal removed. Battery is where passenger rear back seat was.
I would think putting a fuel cell in the back seat area (close to the driver) would not be a good idea from a safety perspective.
10-05-2003, 03:21 PM
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Stan.Shaw - thanks for the info.
OT, but if you want to put your links in your sig you can use text like so (remove the *):
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I worried about the location too. It does seem to be more protected in the center though. There are many other (smaller) cars with gas tanks located behind the driver?
I thought to have either a steel cover over the bladder resting in the seat wells, or a complete aluminum tank with bladder to go there.
OT, but if you want to put your links in your sig you can use text like so (remove the *):
[url=[color=blue]http://www.928racing.net/StanShaw.htm[/color]]928racing.net - StanShaw[/url*]
I worried about the location too. It does seem to be more protected in the center though. There are many other (smaller) cars with gas tanks located behind the driver?
I thought to have either a steel cover over the bladder resting in the seat wells, or a complete aluminum tank with bladder to go there.