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Old Jan 7, 2016 | 10:55 PM
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Tax to import a car with big engine is 328% on the value in Thailand (not what you paid) plus shipping so there's a lot of money to make if you can cheat the system.
Big engine high HP cars are very expensive in Thailand due to the taxes.
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Old Jan 7, 2016 | 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SwedeInSiam
It's very common for sport/luxary cars in Thailand to have VIN changed to avoid taxes at registration.
This has never been legal but accepted until now. You have a lot of "grey areas" in Thailand.
Mostly VIN changed case is for the market car that already have a registration book, those car might be in accident till total loss, then the merchant bring the car from other countries and use those available VIN and resale them.

Unlike the sport/Luxary car, Mostly the owner just brought the car in with totally illegal intention, Use the car for a while, then let the car seize by the custom department. Those car will go to the Goverment auction, In this process, the custom officer will remove the original VIN and stamp the new VIN number to the car.I think they do that for their own record. After the car go through those auction process, those cars are totally clean and legal now.
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Old Jan 8, 2016 | 12:01 AM
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If you have proof (on paper) that this is the case then it should be no problem.
To me the car should be less than 1.5M without the proper VIN but I know the Thai car market don't care so much about it.

I forget, there is also a Black 92 for sale with no price stated.
So 5 GTS listed for sale in Thailand at the moment.
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Old Jan 8, 2016 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by SwedeInSiam
As a side note since you are looking for a GTS I find a bit strange that out of the few 928's in Thailand there's suddenly a bunch of GTS listed for sale.
At the moment we have the above Red 94 (฿1.5M).
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Violet Blue 93 (฿1.5M)
Black 93 (฿1.4M)
Oak Green 93 (฿3.0M)
Could be more???
GTS is very rare in Thailand, Mostly they modify old 928 to GTS body and the price for those is under 1million Baht. The Oak Green is probably one owner and AAS (Authorize Dealer) that why the price is top of the line
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Old Jan 8, 2016 | 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by SwedeInSiam
If you have proof (on paper) that this is the case then it should be no problem.
To me the car should be less than 1.5M without the proper VIN but I know the Thai car market don't care so much about it.

I forget, there is also a Black 92 for sale with no price stated.
So 5 GTS listed for sale in Thailand at the moment.
I am thinking the same to you, For the red one, I will go take a close look again and will try to find the original VIN that might survival at different location.
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Old Jan 8, 2016 | 02:19 AM
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I asked the owner to see the number under the luggage trunk for me... Here is what he send to me. I have no idea what this number is
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Old Jan 8, 2016 | 02:23 AM
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Not sure what that is.

Should be a white sticker located to the right of the spare wheel on top of the fuel tank.
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Old Jan 8, 2016 | 02:28 AM
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Here's from the owners manual

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Old Jan 8, 2016 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by khunnammon
I asked the owner to see the number under the luggage trunk for me... Here is what he send to me. I have no idea what this number is
Perfect.

This is not what I have been expected, but at least you could find the original VIN of the car from this.
This is the car's body number. It is unique to this car but you have to ask a Porsche importer that will then ask Porsche Germany to know to which car it was assigned.

In short, this is the body number 0605 of the 1994 928 GTS's, all markets mixed.
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Old Jan 8, 2016 | 07:49 AM
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For the moment, 1994 RHD automatic GTS with draped leather seat and without seat heating for the right seat, I have 41 possible cars.

Does it have a sunroof or anything else special?
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Old Jan 8, 2016 | 10:10 AM
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Thank you for a positive information, the draped leather you mentioned is a red strip on the seat? Anyway this car come with sunroof as well
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Old Jan 13, 2016 | 04:09 AM
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check for a VIN # on the right edge of the engine compartment. The one on my '83 is acid etched into the sheet metal.
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Old Jan 13, 2016 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by SteveG
I don't understand the mystery. The VIN is on the A pillar, the verticle door (on US left side, perhaps this car it is on other driver side jamb and the paper sticker under the carpet in rear hatch, there is no front luggage compartment carpet
Its a RoW car - a-pillar and door jamb sticker are VIN locations only for North American delivery cars.

Car is a GTS - airbag steering wheel only started in '93 for RHD markets and is only driver's side (the curvy dash with passenger airbag never had a RHD equivalent design). That, the clock and the engine number are enough to satisfy me.

If the riveted plate at the front of the engine bay is gone and they've cut the one off the right-side of the frame (where it shows through the cut-out in the fender), then unless the sticker is in the books or the rear hatch, you're basically stuck hoping the workers wrote the last few digits of the VIN on interior parts prior to install. Which does happen - e.g. back outer surface of the glovebox sometimes.

Easiest way would be to phone Porsche customer service in another country (e.g. UK where the car is likely from) and ask them to look it up from the engine number.

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Old Jan 13, 2016 | 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 928cs
For the moment, 1994 RHD automatic GTS with draped leather seat and without seat heating for the right seat, I have 41 possible cars.

Does it have a sunroof or anything else special?
Also has no rear aircon and is likely C16 UK delivery (speedo is in mph with kph inner ring - South Afrtica, Australia and NZ are all metric and only have kph). Narrowed it down to 28 VIN numbers, but its a pretty common UK spec so phoing Porsche GB in Reading, UK will be easiest way to answer.

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