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Pull straight up (perpendicular to the glass). The usual method is a thin/strong pry-bar, slide it between the trim and the glass at the clip location and pry the trim upwards. That usually cracks the glass in a few places, no biggie if the glass is being replaced. And if you are not right at the clip then you bend the trim also.
The problem is that the clips have a little tooth at each end, what is needed is a magic tool to open the clip slightly and release the teeth.
The problem is that the clips have a little tooth at each end, what is needed is a magic tool to open the clip slightly and release the teeth.
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Pull straight up (perpendicular to the glass). The usual method is a thin/strong pry-bar, slide it between the trim and the glass at the clip location and pry the trim upwards. That usually cracks the glass in a few places, no biggie if the glass is being replaced. And if you are not right at the clip then you bend the trim also.
The problem is that the clips have a little tooth at each end, what is needed is a magic tool to open the clip slightly and release the teeth.
The problem is that the clips have a little tooth at each end, what is needed is a magic tool to open the clip slightly and release the teeth.
Its wind/age eroded too, might as well buy a new one.
What if you put a block of nylon or something to buffer the glass when removing it?
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I have never had an issue with wind noise from my original trim and I have had the windshield replaced twice. But this has been my experience and yours may vary like the above.
I think the reason for this is that I found out when I had my rear glass resealed 3 months ago that my local installer has been doing 928 glass since they were new. He was Porsche's reference in my area. Go figure...
They also sourced the glass for me @$300 install included. It's probably Chinese but it took a heavy rock @ 70 mph at didn't even get a scratch. My last windshield cracked in less than 2 weeks.
It really helps to have someone experienced in 928 glass who knows all of the tricks to do the job right.
I think the reason for this is that I found out when I had my rear glass resealed 3 months ago that my local installer has been doing 928 glass since they were new. He was Porsche's reference in my area. Go figure...
They also sourced the glass for me @$300 install included. It's probably Chinese but it took a heavy rock @ 70 mph at didn't even get a scratch. My last windshield cracked in less than 2 weeks.
It really helps to have someone experienced in 928 glass who knows all of the tricks to do the job right.
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I went with a local auto glass place as well. Not sure on the brand of glass, but they ordered it and had it installed for under $300. I took the trim off myself so I didn't have to worry about them messing with it, came off easy and without bending.
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I think that the issue about wind noise, particularly after the WS has been replaced, is a closely held factory secret. I have had multiple opportunities to install the Windshield Side Trim Gap Filler Strips that I developed to do just that--fill the gaps. What I have learned about the significant gaps along and under the side WS trim is that the gaps were part of the overall rain gutter system for the front and top of the car. Water off the WS was intended to flow to the side and into the gaps and then upward to the corners at the top and there it was intended to pass through a small opening under the WS trim and into the hidden rain gutter along the top of the car just above the doors. The gutter is hidden there under the fairly heavy aluminum trim found there.
What I have found with most of the many cars in which I have installed my Gap Filler Strips is a short piece of foam rubber weather stripping about 4 inches long and about a quarter by 3/8 inch cross section. It has been stuffed into the top corners of the Gaps and glued in place. In order to install my Gap Filler Strips it must be removed, and usually comes out in pieces, but occasionally it will pull out in one piece. These pieces of weather stripping are always the same, and that tells me that they were put there by the Factory. I think what happened is that when they were test driving the 928, or perhaps as a result of customer complaints about the wind noise from wind passing through the little openings at the top corners, they devised this weather stripping installation and started putting it in all of the cars. I think that is what Jeff found when he had his WS replaced as he mentions above. The few 928s that I have found without the weather stripping are probably the result of having had the WS replaced.
My Gap Filler Strips were not intended to replace the weather stripping since I developed them merely as a cosmetic item to close up the Gaps, but they do the same job as the weather stripping, and some reports suggest that the overall noise issue is improved with them.
What I have found with most of the many cars in which I have installed my Gap Filler Strips is a short piece of foam rubber weather stripping about 4 inches long and about a quarter by 3/8 inch cross section. It has been stuffed into the top corners of the Gaps and glued in place. In order to install my Gap Filler Strips it must be removed, and usually comes out in pieces, but occasionally it will pull out in one piece. These pieces of weather stripping are always the same, and that tells me that they were put there by the Factory. I think what happened is that when they were test driving the 928, or perhaps as a result of customer complaints about the wind noise from wind passing through the little openings at the top corners, they devised this weather stripping installation and started putting it in all of the cars. I think that is what Jeff found when he had his WS replaced as he mentions above. The few 928s that I have found without the weather stripping are probably the result of having had the WS replaced.
My Gap Filler Strips were not intended to replace the weather stripping since I developed them merely as a cosmetic item to close up the Gaps, but they do the same job as the weather stripping, and some reports suggest that the overall noise issue is improved with them.
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The only glass coming from Porsche has the embedded antenna - yes even if you order the part numbers without embedded antennas.
Shipping is the killer both in price and opportunity for breakage. I buy about 6 to 10 at a time and they come well protected in a wooden frame. I sell them to local pick up only for $475. I normally have green and brown tint and I can get the embedded antenna glass for about $150 more each.
These are either Pilkington or Chinese and in both cases the quality has been excellent - not had a bad one yet. But I do use a reputable supplier who checks them for clarity.
SafeLite just fitted one to my GTS at my home and the service was excellent - no issues with trim or the GTS special side fill rubbers. Shame it got hit by a rock at Third Coast and bust again 8>(
Shipping is the killer both in price and opportunity for breakage. I buy about 6 to 10 at a time and they come well protected in a wooden frame. I sell them to local pick up only for $475. I normally have green and brown tint and I can get the embedded antenna glass for about $150 more each.
These are either Pilkington or Chinese and in both cases the quality has been excellent - not had a bad one yet. But I do use a reputable supplier who checks them for clarity.
SafeLite just fitted one to my GTS at my home and the service was excellent - no issues with trim or the GTS special side fill rubbers. Shame it got hit by a rock at Third Coast and bust again 8>(
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"Much more common is glass from China, some is apparently good and some not-so-good. I don't know how you would determine which is which. "
I just had a windshield replaced on the STS by a very competent and very talkative installer. According to him, it is difficult and expensive to get any glass that is not made in China. The USA companies have all moved production. He also said that the quality is good on this glass. He said that he had talked to some of the folks at the USA glass companies about the production move. According to his source, the manufacturing cost is about $20, regardless of the windshield type. I have serious doubts about that. The Mercedes has iron in the glass to lower solar heating, with one small clear space at the top - I suspect that one might still come from Germany.
I just had a windshield replaced on the STS by a very competent and very talkative installer. According to him, it is difficult and expensive to get any glass that is not made in China. The USA companies have all moved production. He also said that the quality is good on this glass. He said that he had talked to some of the folks at the USA glass companies about the production move. According to his source, the manufacturing cost is about $20, regardless of the windshield type. I have serious doubts about that. The Mercedes has iron in the glass to lower solar heating, with one small clear space at the top - I suspect that one might still come from Germany.
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HI , not of any help to you guys across the pond but had one fitted today,£80 exes on insurance claim in U.K. Green with green top tint and antenna made by Pillkingtons glass ,who owns them now?
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So Chinese quality must be inconsistent.
We had Safelite replace the windshield in my wife's VW R32 with a Chinese piece and it's crap... wavy in some places and it spots very easily.
We had Safelite replace the windshield in my wife's VW R32 with a Chinese piece and it's crap... wavy in some places and it spots very easily.
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had my windshield replaced by safelite a few months ago. they came out to my house at first and the guy demurred. Made an appt to drop it off at their location and they had it done the next day. one piece of trim sits slightly more proud of the a pillar than it did before but only i notice. i was happy with the job overall. The glass was sourced from Porsche.
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Did your insurer allow you to replace a scratched screen, or did it have to be mot failure damage for them to entertain the claim?