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Old Dec 21, 2015 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Jherriott
I've been pushing my luck too. No snow yet, but I just can't resist keeping her on the road. Even on damp foggy days... cold damp air = powwwwer!

Jase.


Nice Car Jase! With this discussion, I truly believe I should be driving my car more. So far, I have only driven my car on sunny days. The car has not seen rain since I have owned it. I keep it garaged.


But I will take note of the brine strips.... Won't drive when they are forecasting snow; because that is when they start pre-treating the roads.

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Old Dec 21, 2015 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by XS29L9B
Brine dust WILL coat the underside of your car and "dust" the rest of the body. Just sayin'
and the reason it sticks so well is the use of sugar beet juice in the mix. You can always tell it's usage because when washing the car , it takes several attempts with a wet applicator and soap to 'un-smear' the residue off the paint.

Consider how one never is able to wipe many of these areas with a wet soapy cloth, and how that brine/beet juice mixture just stays coating everything.
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Old Dec 21, 2015 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 928 DesMoines
Nice Car Jase! With this discussion, I truly believe I should be driving my car more. So far, I have only driven my car on sunny days. The car has not seen rain since I have owned it. I keep it garaged.


But I will take note of the brine strips.... Won't drive when they are forecasting snow; because that is when they start pre-treating the roads.
That's not the only time the brine salts are on the road. If you're concerned about the exposure to the salts, don't drive in the winter at all. Once that stuff is laid down (and DOT's repeatedly do it through the season) it is there till it rinses away. Up where I am, I don't let the car loose until at least 2 or 3 good rains after the thaw in late April. Once the thaw/melt first occurs you still see the black top not looking black. It has a significant residue for many days until rinsed away.
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Old Dec 21, 2015 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MainePorsche
That's not the only time the brine salts are on the road. If you're concerned about the exposure to the salts, don't drive in the winter at all. Once that stuff is laid down (and DOT's repeatedly do it through the season) it is there till it rinses away. Up where I am, I don't let the car loose until at least 2 or 3 good rains after the thaw in late April. Once the thaw/melt first occurs you still see the black top not looking black. It has a significant residue for many days until rinsed away.



Well, now I am back to square one. LOL. I have to think about this. Perhaps I need a banger that I can drive and not worry so much about. Maybe in the future.
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Old Dec 21, 2015 | 09:28 PM
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A good barometer up here is when the moose stop licking the roadways. They just love that brine.
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Old Dec 22, 2015 | 08:02 AM
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In my area, there is a very specific time to go out in the spring: after the town crew has swept the sand off the roads. This is particularly important if you have a motorcycle, or thin-tired bicycle. They use only salt on the state highways, for which the opening time is defined by a heavy rain, as MainePorsche suggests.

I might have to wait longer, until mud season is over, after my long driveway has thawed out and dried out. Old-timers remember that schools would be closed during mud season, since so many lived on dirt roads.

Incidentally, another factor about driving in winter up here is that there is so little daylight. To paraphrase someone's signature, a gentleman does not motor about after dark except in their salt car.
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Old Dec 22, 2015 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 928phantom
...I plan to buy a second set of 16" rims to mount 205/225 pure snow tires one of these days...
That's an excellent idea. The difference between M&S and snow tires is night and day. And you'll feel it in the cold rain and slop, too, not just on the snow. The first nasty day on new-mounted Michelin Alpins made an instant convert of me.

It was like the difference playing soccer in street shoes or spikes.

That said, have any of you winter drivers ever sprayed the underside of your car, 928 or otherwise, with some sort of waste oil or grease to try to slow corrosion. Or paint brush grease on the bolts you can get to? Any opinion whether it would work?
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Old Dec 22, 2015 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Fogey1
That's an excellent idea. The difference between M&S and snow tires is night and day. And you'll feel it in the cold rain and slop, too, not just on the snow. The first nasty day on new-mounted Michelin Alpins made an instant convert of me.

It was like the difference playing soccer in street shoes or spikes.
exactly correct........we swap the stock 21" rims to 18"er's with full winters on the Cayenne.

The 18s provide much more market choice and less $$$$ than the very rare and expensive 21" versions so much so it was cheaper to buy a used set of 18" rims and new rubber than a set of 21" rubber.

Same concept applies to the 928 should one chose to drive in full winter.

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Old Dec 22, 2015 | 08:45 PM
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84 928s w/ manual at Lake Tahoe basin brings back memories for me

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Old Dec 22, 2015 | 11:10 PM
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"When it really gets cold (temps never above 0c for days,weeks, months!)"

I can't believe that was written by a western Canadian. Temps around 0 are still shorts weather .

We here in Winterpeg have had a very mild winter this year, much better than last, only about a foot of accumulated snow and day time temperatures rising into the single negative digits in C, or 20s in F. Last year this time we had more snow and highs were in the single negative digits F.

Here, if you want to keep it, you don't drive it in the winter, if the salt and sand don't get it slowly, sliding into something or something sliding into you will do it quickly. It is amazing how non flexible flexible plastics are at -40 and how far a car can slide with the brakes on. Still it is surprising what you see being driven, I have seen some nice convertibles, Boxters, Audis, and BMWs bouncing off of the ice. Saw a nice 911 the other say as well. But if you're leasing it, only driving 6 months of the year doubles the effective payments. However I can't imagine those cars are at all comfortable in our winter driving conditions.

Our winter cars are Volvos and an Excursion, the volvos are great winter cars, warm quickly, clear ice off of glass well, good traction, good control, relativity soft ride, and good visibility. We do the switch generally at Halloween and the first week of May.

Because of the cold, snow that comes never really goes, and a lot of sand is used, so until spring it never gets washed away. It amazes me how much accumulates in the chassis over the winter despite the car wash I use having an under carriage wash. I've taken to spraying the cars down in the spring with a product called "Salt Be Gone: used by Maritime Fishermen, does a good job of releasing the salt from the chassis and the sand with it.

My 89 was a local car and had never seen winter, bolts come off easily and everything underneath is nice. The 88 came from southern Ontario, and although I can't say it has seen snow it certainly had seen some salt. Everything that much harder to clean, take off, and a lot more new or refinished bolts are used during a repair.
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Old Dec 23, 2015 | 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by wpgshark
"When it really gets cold (temps never above 0c for days,weeks, months!)"

I can't believe that was written by a western Canadian. Temps around 0 are still shorts weather.
It's not my thing but a fair number of guys will do that here.

"Really cold" is when it doesn't get about 0F for days and weeks. I gotta tell you, that's when the ice on the skating rinks is beautiful. This winter stinks. If this keeps up, I'm moving to Duluth. Or Winnipeg. Or Saskatoon.
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Old Dec 23, 2015 | 07:14 AM
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"I can't believe that was written by a western Canadian. Temps around 0 are still shorts weather "

......true but most of the reading audience have little concept. especially Winnipeg and Calgary weather.

On topic; I have used Pirrelli, Michelin and Hankook winter rubber with preference given to the Hankooks.
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Old Dec 23, 2015 | 07:29 AM
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I drive my 928 most of the year around. I spray the whole underside of my car with ACF-50 corrosion block which is the thicker version of their oil based corrosion inhibitor.

Is is supposed to last about 2 years but I top up anytime I have the car raised. A 1 liter bottle is not expensive and I simply apply it with a hand held plant water sprayer.

http://learchem.com/products.html

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Old Dec 23, 2015 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by GlenL
It's not my thing but a fair number of guys will do that here.

"Really cold" is when it doesn't get about 0F for days and weeks. I gotta tell you, that's when the ice on the skating rinks is beautiful. This winter stinks. If this keeps up, I'm moving to Duluth. Or Winnipeg. Or Saskatoon.
I really like 0 F, when skiing the snow is fast, just like the ice, and my boots don't fill with sweat. There is no slush so the feet stay dry. And when it snows it is easy to shovel because it is light and not sticky. The air is fresh, just a really nice temp.

The like disappears at around -30 although it is an interesting time, the fabrics all get a little stiffer, I can remember as a kid that you could hear the crinkle, but more interesting is walking on hard snow, it squeals like you're hurting it. The skiing however gets slow, can't set up the water film, tougher to keep the windows frost free, and traction, even with ice radials, goes down significantly.

My son and a buddy had a bet on shorts last year, both go to the same university, both made it to Christmas, saw some -30 to -40.
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Amethyst GTS tonight with heavier than lead Antera wheels and studded winter tires. -5C at the moment and little snow earlier today.
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