1987 928 S4
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Just purchased the car a couple of months ago, and am going thru the "resurrecting" issues (the car had been parked for 2-3 years)
The car had developed an issue where it would be idling, and just "shut off", but would re-start immediately. When I would engage the starter to re-start it, I noticed the tach needle would swing full field (unusual)
I checked and cleaned all the grounds (that made it a little better)
Replaced the MAF with one from Rich at ERI (which made it a LOT better)
It then ran fine, but I noticed the idle (warm) was 400 RPM - a little low.
But now, on a drive today, I have the similar symptoms again - I noticed that it had "stuttered" a couple of times while on the highway (70-80 mph)
then, sitting at a stoplight, it just "shut off" like I turned off the key. But same as before, it would re-start instantly, but again, the tach needle would swing on engaging the starter. It would run fine, accelerate properly, drive like normal . . for 10-15 minutes, then repeat.
I do not want to start "throwing parts at it", but not sure where to start - fuel ECU??. . ignition coils?? . . fuel pressure regulator?? . .
Any suggestions would be MOST welcome . . .
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The car had developed an issue where it would be idling, and just "shut off", but would re-start immediately. When I would engage the starter to re-start it, I noticed the tach needle would swing full field (unusual)
I checked and cleaned all the grounds (that made it a little better)
Replaced the MAF with one from Rich at ERI (which made it a LOT better)
It then ran fine, but I noticed the idle (warm) was 400 RPM - a little low.
But now, on a drive today, I have the similar symptoms again - I noticed that it had "stuttered" a couple of times while on the highway (70-80 mph)
then, sitting at a stoplight, it just "shut off" like I turned off the key. But same as before, it would re-start instantly, but again, the tach needle would swing on engaging the starter. It would run fine, accelerate properly, drive like normal . . for 10-15 minutes, then repeat.
I do not want to start "throwing parts at it", but not sure where to start - fuel ECU??. . ignition coils?? . . fuel pressure regulator?? . .
Any suggestions would be MOST welcome . . .
.
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Just purchased the car a couple of months ago, and am going thru the "resurrecting" issues (the car had been parked for 2-3 years)
The car had developed an issue where it would be idling, and just "shut off", but would re-start immediately. When I would engage the starter to re-start it, I noticed the tach needle would swing full field (unusual)
I checked and cleaned all the grounds (that made it a little better)
Replaced the MAF with one from Rich at ERI (which made it a LOT better)
It then ran fine, but I noticed the idle (warm) was 400 RPM - a little low.
But now, on a drive today, I have the similar symptoms again - I noticed that it had "stuttered" a couple of times while on the highway (70-80 mph)
then, sitting at a stoplight, it just "shut off" like I turned off the key. But same as before, it would re-start instantly, but again, the tach needle would swing on engaging the starter. It would run fine, accelerate properly, drive like normal . . for 10-15 minutes, then repeat.
I do not want to start "throwing parts at it", but not sure where to start - fuel ECU??. . ignition coils?? . . fuel pressure regulator?? . .
Any suggestions would be MOST welcome . . .
.
The car had developed an issue where it would be idling, and just "shut off", but would re-start immediately. When I would engage the starter to re-start it, I noticed the tach needle would swing full field (unusual)
I checked and cleaned all the grounds (that made it a little better)
Replaced the MAF with one from Rich at ERI (which made it a LOT better)
It then ran fine, but I noticed the idle (warm) was 400 RPM - a little low.
But now, on a drive today, I have the similar symptoms again - I noticed that it had "stuttered" a couple of times while on the highway (70-80 mph)
then, sitting at a stoplight, it just "shut off" like I turned off the key. But same as before, it would re-start instantly, but again, the tach needle would swing on engaging the starter. It would run fine, accelerate properly, drive like normal . . for 10-15 minutes, then repeat.
I do not want to start "throwing parts at it", but not sure where to start - fuel ECU??. . ignition coils?? . . fuel pressure regulator?? . .
Any suggestions would be MOST welcome . . .
.
Also consider CPS, and its effect on the EZK.
EZK relay would be an easy first look if can be swapped for testing.
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I would replace the 3 running relays, do one at a time,
if the computers have not been rebuilt then now is a good time to have that done,
BUT do the relays first
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if the computers have not been rebuilt then now is a good time to have that done,
BUT do the relays first
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...-ciFMIL7g877sw
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Next step:
I have replaced the 3 relays - EZK, LH and ignition.
Took it for a drive today, it seems to run well and power seems normal. (still idles at 400 RPM)
Idling at a stoplight, it just "quit" again - exactly as before, like you turned off the key. Re-started immediately and ran fine. And like before, when engaging the starter, the tach would swing to full field.
Reading another post, there was discussion that a tach problem would "shut off" the LH computer . . . is it possible that is what is happening here?
Or, is this issue something that a failing LH computer would cause??
I have replaced the 3 relays - EZK, LH and ignition.
Took it for a drive today, it seems to run well and power seems normal. (still idles at 400 RPM)
Idling at a stoplight, it just "quit" again - exactly as before, like you turned off the key. Re-started immediately and ran fine. And like before, when engaging the starter, the tach would swing to full field.
Reading another post, there was discussion that a tach problem would "shut off" the LH computer . . . is it possible that is what is happening here?
Or, is this issue something that a failing LH computer would cause??
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Next step:
I have replaced the 3 relays - EZK, LH and ignition.
Took it for a drive today, it seems to run well and power seems normal. (still idles at 400 RPM)
Idling at a stoplight, it just "quit" again - exactly as before, like you turned off the key. Re-started immediately and ran fine. And like before, when engaging the starter, the tach would swing to full field.
Reading another post, there was discussion that a tach problem would "shut off" the LH computer . . . is it possible that is what is happening here?
Or, is this issue something that a failing LH computer would cause??
I have replaced the 3 relays - EZK, LH and ignition.
Took it for a drive today, it seems to run well and power seems normal. (still idles at 400 RPM)
Idling at a stoplight, it just "quit" again - exactly as before, like you turned off the key. Re-started immediately and ran fine. And like before, when engaging the starter, the tach would swing to full field.
Reading another post, there was discussion that a tach problem would "shut off" the LH computer . . . is it possible that is what is happening here?
Or, is this issue something that a failing LH computer would cause??
Best wishes with the work.
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The next step in the ongoing battle - replaced the LH ECU with one from Rich at Electronik Repair in Mesa, Az. The engine immediately sounded better - cleaner, better taking the throttle, and better power. Obviously it was "time".
Over the past week of normal driving, the car performed very nicely, and I was beginning to feel that I had found . . "it" . . then the engine stalled again.
But, THIS time, I had the hood open. I heard a "gasping" sound (or a "vacuum" sound) which seemed to initiate the stall. It did not want to immediately restart. I disconnected and reconnected the battery, and it started immediately, and ran fine.
Suggestions Please ??
Over the past week of normal driving, the car performed very nicely, and I was beginning to feel that I had found . . "it" . . then the engine stalled again.
But, THIS time, I had the hood open. I heard a "gasping" sound (or a "vacuum" sound) which seemed to initiate the stall. It did not want to immediately restart. I disconnected and reconnected the battery, and it started immediately, and ran fine.
Suggestions Please ??
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