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Old 12-06-2015, 10:01 AM
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Both the Cannoball movies are good fun and a blast for a car guy to watch. Even CBR2 was good and made me lust after Sinatra's Daytona which is a pretty unheralded car. Of course, the two chicks in the Lambo sold it.
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Originally Posted by Vilhuer
Original film would have been very different if Steve McQueen were in it like it was planned.
Conversely, Steve McQueen's reputation would have been diminished had he been in it
Old 12-06-2015, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by linderpat
Conversely, Steve McQueen's reputation would have been diminished had he been in it
+1

Burt Reynolds was the right guy for this role.


And look what the opening score did for Ray Stevens' career...
Old 12-07-2015, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by FredR
Was this the 928 in the Cannonball run that they had to cut the B pillar in order to get the roof to collapse?

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That's what I always heard. The trailer doesn't show it as well, but if you watch the full scene you can see an obvious edit of two different shots. The first shot the roof it fully intact as the rear tire of the truck is coming off of it. Then they switch to a different angle and suddenly the roof is crushed.

Hacker, you're right about the Brock Yates book about the Cannonball. GREAT read. As was said almost everything in the movie actually happened in one way or another over the course of several years of running the race. I definitely highly recommend the book. It also has a breakdown of what cars actually ran in the legit races, and lists their times. The Porsches didn't do as well as they should've. The Ferrari Daytona of Yates and Gurney was an awesome car though.
Old 12-08-2015, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by linderpat
Conversely, Steve McQueen's reputation would have been diminished had he been in it
McQueen version would not have been comedy at all. When he died only then Reynolds came in and it was changed. It would have been possibly equally serious as LeMans.
Old 12-08-2015, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
That's not terribly uncommon, at least for European cars of the era. VW advertised the Rabbit Cabriolet could take 2 1/2 times it's own weight and Volvo has released multiple ads over the years showing cars stacked on top of each other.

It takes more than one would think to crush a cars with big air filled rubber tires. I saw a documentary on monster trucks years ago and they showed how every car is pre-crushed before the show.

does rubber tires filled with air make the 6000lb truck weigh less?
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Originally Posted by mark kibort
does rubber tires filled with air make the 6000lb truck weigh less?
No unless other filler option is lead but it spreads weight around compared to something like solid metal rail wheel which weights less.
Old 12-08-2015, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Vilhuer
No unless other filler option is lead but it spreads weight around compared to something like solid metal rail wheel which weights less.
actually the wheels and tires weigh near 1000lbs each and the trucks in this time period were more like 10,000lbs to 15,000lbs

this tire doesnt deflect much at the tread. (contact area) but the tire is only filled with 10psi, so its like a shockabsorber to the truck. that force is spread out evenly on the roof, and that fact that its filled with air, doesnt do much more than if it was a steam roller!
Old 12-08-2015, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Vilhuer
McQueen version would not have been comedy at all. When he died only then Reynolds came in and it was changed. It would have been possibly equally serious as LeMans.
Well, it would have been a serious treatment of a rather ridiculous event. There were a lot of absolutely hilarious moments during the actual races. 2 priests in a Ferrari were actually 3 in a Mercedes - one was Pete Brock. The "ambulance getting pulled over and explaining that 'the Senator's wife' needed to go to LA by ground because of cysts on her lungs" was real (minus Dom DeLuise).

But Reynold's influence, strained budgets and a tragic accident during a stunt scene shoot turned the production into a fiasco and the movie into a farce.

The story is told in the book. It's a fascinating read, for the story of the first movie (Yates had nothing to do with the other 2), the races, and the overall mentality that spawned them.
Old 12-09-2015, 10:04 AM
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As far as movies go. Gumball rally is probably best result about the subject even though its comedy. Cars and especially how they are used is definitelly better than in many others.
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin Joe
Well, it would have been a serious treatment of a rather ridiculous event. There were a lot of absolutely hilarious moments during the actual races. 2 priests in a Ferrari were actually 3 in a Mercedes - one was Pete Brock. The "ambulance getting pulled over and explaining that 'the Senator's wife' needed to go to LA by ground because of cysts on her lungs" was real (minus Dom DeLuise).

But Reynold's influence, strained budgets and a tragic accident during a stunt scene shoot turned the production into a fiasco and the movie into a farce.

The story is told in the book. It's a fascinating read, for the story of the first movie (Yates had nothing to do with the other 2), the races, and the overall mentality that spawned them.
Having been coast to coast via automobile on more than a couple dozen occasions, I sometimes think about the movie and what role I could've had

I usually am driving something interesting when I go, but no video...

One interesting story I have, which might not even be true, is about a trip across one very boring state where my co-driver and I thought it would be interesting to set the cruise control at twice the posted limit.

Anyways, after about 20-25 minutes, one of us had to use the restroom. The other, once we took an exit, manned the fuel pump. After fueling, then going inside for a receipt, we both emerged, re-entered the vehicle and got to the edge of the parking lot.

Looking both ways, we noticed at the intersection about 100 yards away, a tractor trailer moving through. As it moved, behind, and on the ramp, positioned to see the highway and what was below, was a trooper. When the truck moved and we saw this, we both got a sinking feeling. Now, what to do?

We gingerly pulled from the station, signaled right, and hit the highway. Slow and easy... We figured he didn't have any way of knowing who was previously driving... And the trooper? He never moved from his place.

So why was he there? Looking for a UFO? After all, we were in the middle of nowhere, with more cattle than cars.

What prompted this? I believe it was the same "imbedded loops" which the DOT monitors traffic speeds (for state use, Google maps, etc.), then told a trooper to go find the UFO.

As I said earlier, none of this could be true. All fictional, right? ...I've got more stories


Cannonball...
Old 12-09-2015, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
Considering the success 928's had in the real race, it's a shame that was the only one in both movies.
Tangentially related, if you've never seen the real 928 from the real Cannonball there is a documentary called "32 Hours 7 minutes" that has interviews with the original participants as well as Alex Roy's attempt at breaking the record in his M5.

The 928 team was very cool in that they added an extra 19 gallon soft fuel tank in the hatch (IIRC). I seem to remember them saying they only stopped 3 times for fuel on the whole trip.

http://www.32hours7minutes.com/
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real life funy! strong roofs!
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Old 12-09-2015, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mark kibort
does rubber tires filled with air make the 6000lb truck weigh less?
No, but the size, more so the giant contact patch spreads the weight out so much it causes far less damage than say....the same truck with a 6" wide wheel & tire.

Ever see a tractor (where those tires come from). You know why they are so large? It's not just for traction, but also to limit the damage to the soil as they drive around the crops so they don't dig in like a narrower / smaller tire would.

Same goes for snow. If you want to drive around the deep stuff you want to float on top, not dig in.


That's why we have school buses like this in my area:




Old 12-09-2015, 09:48 PM
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big farm tractor tires are often filled with water.....the huge amount of extra weight adds...(drum Roll ).... traction !!!


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