"These are, by far, the scariest cars (to repair and maintain)"
11-01-2015, 07:25 PM
#31
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While looking for Buick parts I bump into Chevy stuff that is cheaper still.
Ya gotta really love the 928 to put money into it. Like the author said, a lot of them have "deferred maintenance" where the owners just ignore problems because it's too expensive to fix.
11-01-2015, 08:27 PM
#32
1. I make $30,000 a year lets say selling insurance or writing semi romance novels
2. I don't know how to work on a car. I have no mechanical ability. My mechanic will fix the car. He is the only foreign car repair mechanic in my town, the next is over 2 hours away and he races 911's.
3. I need the 928 to be my daily driver
4. I can only afford $5000 to buy the car
5. I don't know anything about electrical repair..
As a buyer above his comments are absolutely accurate.
2. I don't know how to work on a car. I have no mechanical ability. My mechanic will fix the car. He is the only foreign car repair mechanic in my town, the next is over 2 hours away and he races 911's.
3. I need the 928 to be my daily driver
4. I can only afford $5000 to buy the car
5. I don't know anything about electrical repair..
As a buyer above his comments are absolutely accurate.
11-01-2015, 09:44 PM
#33
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One other thing to support the maintainability of a 928:
This forum.
I don't know how well documented other forums are, but after 6 months of ownership and 6 months of reading this board, there is little that I don't feel I could do if needed. And I'd hope that little bit of uncertainty will dissipate over time as I do more and more.
This forum.
I don't know how well documented other forums are, but after 6 months of ownership and 6 months of reading this board, there is little that I don't feel I could do if needed. And I'd hope that little bit of uncertainty will dissipate over time as I do more and more.
It's POCA, the Pantera owners club of America forum. I know cause I have a Pantera, and there were only around 6000 cars produced in a 25 year period.
11-01-2015, 09:46 PM
#34
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I don't think it's so much what is said in the article as much as it is the 928's placement in any article with that subject. As Hacker pointed out, new cars are ridiculous. They're (mostly) not designed to last, and as soon as the warranty runs out will be ridiculously expensive to have fixed...and I say "have fixed" because they're also not designed to be worked on by anyone without very expensive specialized equipment.
11-01-2015, 10:51 PM
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I'm pretty sure I'm sober, reading that I'm not sure what I should be disagreeing with???
How many threads / posts are we talking about NLA parts (like fuel lines)? I think a lot of you have very little experience with other makes / model cars (that are even a lot older) where 100% of every part is readily available from multiple sources.
He's talking about electrical issues with these cars. The most common phrase in the history of Rennlist is: "Check your grounds" followed by "Did you check a relay?"
"Buy a sorted one or don’t buy one at all" - We tell people this all the time!!!
I understand we don't like seeing negative press about our cars, but I'm sorry, people need to know what they are in for. I recently witnessed what happens to a very nice 928 when purchased by the wrong idiots. I still have nightmares about what I saw a couple months ago. I with that dolt would have read this article first.....
Not disagreeing on the Testarossa maintenance, but were you aware the engine must be removed for a Countach Clutch job? Unlike some cars, the Countach was not designed with engine removals in mind.
As for the V8 Ferrari's, it's not even close. I've personally done an engine out job on a 355 and it was a piece of cake. One of the easiest cars I've ever worked on (it was a GTS which actually makes things easier). The 3 year belt job is BS. My father's 355 had 7+ years on the belt job that I did and he had no intentions of doing it for another couple of years (but he sold the car this past April).
How many threads / posts are we talking about NLA parts (like fuel lines)? I think a lot of you have very little experience with other makes / model cars (that are even a lot older) where 100% of every part is readily available from multiple sources.
He's talking about electrical issues with these cars. The most common phrase in the history of Rennlist is: "Check your grounds" followed by "Did you check a relay?"
"Buy a sorted one or don’t buy one at all" - We tell people this all the time!!!
I understand we don't like seeing negative press about our cars, but I'm sorry, people need to know what they are in for. I recently witnessed what happens to a very nice 928 when purchased by the wrong idiots. I still have nightmares about what I saw a couple months ago. I with that dolt would have read this article first.....
Not disagreeing on the Testarossa maintenance, but were you aware the engine must be removed for a Countach Clutch job? Unlike some cars, the Countach was not designed with engine removals in mind.
As for the V8 Ferrari's, it's not even close. I've personally done an engine out job on a 355 and it was a piece of cake. One of the easiest cars I've ever worked on (it was a GTS which actually makes things easier). The 3 year belt job is BS. My father's 355 had 7+ years on the belt job that I did and he had no intentions of doing it for another couple of years (but he sold the car this past April).
11-02-2015, 04:20 PM
#37
I actually happen to agree that the 928 is a tough car to own. You just have to get it into maintenance mode, then things are good. I rescued my car from death's door. It was going to be parted out. It is truly a labor of love, and I am almost there. I am proud of what I have been able to do with help from folks on this board. I am always worried about something going wrong. Prices for parts are quite high, and that sucks. I am looking at a coolant level sensor for $200 right now. I am trying to figure out how I can rig up a replacement, No luck thus far except for buying a brand new one. I know Porsche has to make money, but some of the prices they dream up are insane....
11-02-2015, 04:42 PM
#38
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He has -a- point.
But only...if you are 'that guy' that works his *** off, to do every repair wrong.
I could point to a few threads active even today, of people working very hard, to do it on the cheap and/or wrong.
They'll learn to hate how hard it is to keep a 928 running correctly...and the theory will continue to have legs because of it.
But only...if you are 'that guy' that works his *** off, to do every repair wrong.
I could point to a few threads active even today, of people working very hard, to do it on the cheap and/or wrong.
They'll learn to hate how hard it is to keep a 928 running correctly...and the theory will continue to have legs because of it.
11-02-2015, 04:56 PM
#39
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I am just going to say that it takes a man to conquer fear and its scare. This journalist is a straight up kitty...as I cannot say p***y on here.
11-02-2015, 09:12 PM
#40
Mongo: +1
One of the most fun things about a 928 is how truly insanely hard it can be to get through some of the tasks. I think 2 certain types of people are drawn to the challenge: you guys who actually know what you're doing and you know how to do it, and then guys like me who are too stupid to realize it LOL.
It's supposed to be fun, all of it.
One of the most fun things about a 928 is how truly insanely hard it can be to get through some of the tasks. I think 2 certain types of people are drawn to the challenge: you guys who actually know what you're doing and you know how to do it, and then guys like me who are too stupid to realize it LOL.
It's supposed to be fun, all of it.
11-02-2015, 09:21 PM
#41
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But...we will learn how to do it and - as you said - have fun along the way.
11-02-2015, 09:48 PM
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11-02-2015, 11:57 PM
#43
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I actually happen to agree that the 928 is a tough car to own. You just have to get it into maintenance mode, then things are good. I rescued my car from death's door. It was going to be parted out. It is truly a labor of love, and I am almost there. I am proud of what I have been able to do with help from folks on this board. I am always worried about something going wrong. Prices for parts are quite high, and that sucks. I am looking at a coolant level sensor for $200 right now. I am trying to figure out how I can rig up a replacement, No luck thus far except for buying a brand new one. I know Porsche has to make money, but some of the prices they dream up are insane....
Mongo: +1
One of the most fun things about a 928 is how truly insanely hard it can be to get through some of the tasks. I think 2 certain types of people are drawn to the challenge: you guys who actually know what you're doing and you know how to do it, and then guys like me who are too stupid to realize it LOL.
It's supposed to be fun, all of it.
One of the most fun things about a 928 is how truly insanely hard it can be to get through some of the tasks. I think 2 certain types of people are drawn to the challenge: you guys who actually know what you're doing and you know how to do it, and then guys like me who are too stupid to realize it LOL.
It's supposed to be fun, all of it.
Perceptive.
I just don't understand why one would 'huff and puff on someone else's house'. The author published that paragraph in a car enthusiast publication, and should know not all car enthusiasts are enthusiastic about the same car(s). Don't tread on another's interests - they're another's. And...if you must, don't embarrass yourself by not being entirely factual. Author was on some but not all, and overall tone was condescending. No need for that. Makes him seem like a mean, small person... and he can still go f@*k himself.
I just don't understand why one would 'huff and puff on someone else's house'. The author published that paragraph in a car enthusiast publication, and should know not all car enthusiasts are enthusiastic about the same car(s). Don't tread on another's interests - they're another's. And...if you must, don't embarrass yourself by not being entirely factual. Author was on some but not all, and overall tone was condescending. No need for that. Makes him seem like a mean, small person... and he can still go f@*k himself.
Sorry if you were offended.
11-03-2015, 10:51 AM
#45
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