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Old 06-30-2015, 09:00 PM
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Started on the engine pull today, got to the point that every thing has been removed, or disconnected that needs to be. The AC compressor is hanging and tied. We did not want to deal with having to recharge the system. tomorrow first thing is to pull it out and put it on the stand. I decided to pull the engine to replace the pan gasket that was leaking. Reality is the car is gushing oil, from the front main seal, the oil pump, the pan gasket, and the front return line the goes to the pan. Underneath the car is a huge mess, tremendous amount of cleaning to do. Will require much time with a scraper, and gallons of simple green. I am planning on replacing every hose, doing a hardline replacement for the blue hose, and all new gaskets for the intake and exhaust. Planning on two weeks down time for the car. Vermont summers are short and I want to spend some time on the twisties. Should have photos of the pull tomorrow

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Good luck!
I am moving along a similar path, but slower than a turtle stuck in reverse because of job responsibilities.
I have noticed that the WSM is, shall we say, sparsely written when it comes to yanking the engine out.
Be careful, and share your wisdom! ! !
Dan
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Started on the engine pull today, got to the point that every thing has been removed, or disconnected that needs to be. The AC compressor is hanging and tied. We did not want to deal with having to recharge the system. tomorrow first thing is to pull it out and put it on the stand. I decided to pull the engine to replace the pan gasket that was leaking. Reality is the car is gushing oil, from the front main seal, the oil pump, the pan gasket, and the front return line the goes to the pan. Underneath the car is a huge mess, tremendous amount of cleaning to do. Will require much time with a scraper, and gallons of simple green. I am planning on replacing every hose, doing a hardline replacement for the blue hose, and all new gaskets for the intake and exhaust. Planning on two weeks down time for the car. Vermont summers are short and I want to spend some time on the twisties. Should have photos of the pull tomorrow

Paul

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Big job, good luck and keep us posted with lots of pics!

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Good luck!
I am moving along a similar path, but slower than a turtle stuck in reverse because of job responsibilities.
I have noticed that the WSM is, shall we say, sparsely written when it comes to yanking the engine out.
Be careful, and share your wisdom! ! !
Dan

WSM method worked good for me. Still lots to do after its pulled out, but it's pretty on the money for getting that sucker out. Most importantly, go slow and be careful.
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It is out and on the stand. As we were pulling the engine a storm killed the lights in the garage. I'm beginning to believe the job is cursed. The engine bay has 35 years of crud and huge amounts of oil caked the lower surfaces and the engine from the girdle down is covered in thick sludge.

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Some careful use of a pressure washer can move the cleaning process along nicely. Avoid the electrical connections in particular. Since you have the engine out it will be a lot easier. I have pressure washed a number of engines, engine bays, and chassis, a lot of hand cleaning will still be necessary but getting the thick layer of crud off is a great start. Oh, make certain you have all the hoses and orifices plugged before washing....It is amazing where a pressure washer will push crud if you don't put bolts back in holes or leave something open that allows crud in..... and many folks will tell you not to steam clean or not to pressure wash...my continued good results tell me it works well for me, so.....
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Been busy with the grunt work, cleaning the engine bay, what a mess oil almost everywhere. The coating of oil was more tar than oil, and in some places 3/8" thick.The engine was just as bad as the bay. Getting ready to start replacing parts. Hope to have a non leaking engine in a week. Doing a lot of while you are in there things, I plan on this engine out being the one and only time I ever do this.

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Hi!!
Any time for more photos of your progress please?
Did you run into any unexpected snags along the way?
Thanks,
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When I recently swapped engines I spent as much time cleaning as I did doing mechanical things. Not very fun but better than when installed.
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VT928,

I love that front license plate ! !
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Haven't heard from Walt for a while. Needs to be said -

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Several minor problems have cropped up, busted a bolt on the water bridge, beneath the distributer. Several other minor problems, mostly wear on parts that I had not thought of like the rubber pads the cushion part of the intake system and some connectors that are cracked after thirty five years of use. The exhausts studs were a problem as expected, one was missing and one broke. Good news is neither of the main seals is leaking but I bought new and they are going in to replace perfectly good parts. Because I do not want to do this job ever again. The reality of the of the job is that the engine work is fun but all the cleaning is a very boring, very messy job, that is a drudge to do. One piece of advice, air tools really speed up the process.

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Cleaning takes hours and hours and hours, fixing is quick.


Its awesome to have a 928 without leaks when you're done. go with studs and the silicone pan gasket. Since you've got t out, do the head gaskets, too. Likely there's a bunch of corrosion and it will last another 100,000 miles if you do it now.
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most of the cleaning is complete now, down to cleaning the engine itself, should not take to long to do. Still have to get a solution worked out for the hard line replacement of the blue hose. And have more parts to get. Should be able to start reassembly early next week, depending on parts delivery dates. Still debating what to do with the spider, powder coat, polish, or just clean and leave stock. At this point clean and leave stock is the most probable.

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Nice work Paul! Get those holes plugged up with towels or tape so dirt doesn't find its way down into one of them.
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Originally Posted by Ladybug83
Nice work Paul! Get those holes plugged up with towels or tape so dirt doesn't find its way down into one of them.
or a lot worse than a little dirt....
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