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Old 06-29-2015 | 02:28 PM
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I ordered a wide band sensor from Roger and when it showed up i see that it has 5 wires #258-007-057 a good VW sensor that is compatible with most stuff.
So I was not sure what to do with the 5 wires and googled it. I see that a controller must be use especially with aftermarket Engine management systems.
I use Electromotive Tec-4 GT
http://www.electromotive-inc.com/pro...ngine-control/

a while back I thought I was buying one off someone here and all I got was a Lc1 gauge.
Whats my next step to getting one or what ever I need quickly so that I can use a wideband?

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Old 06-29-2015 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Innovate offered wither the LM-1 or the LC-1 kits. The LC1 was a sensor and a gauge whereas the LM1 kit was a digital box with a display showing the AFR. The LM1 then produces a signal that is sent to the ST2 unit. I believe something similar can be done with the LC1 kit.

If you visit the Innovate website you should be able to find info as to how to connect things up.

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Old 06-29-2015 | 04:17 PM
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The LC-1 is 'just' a small black box controller that takes the input from a Bosch wideband sensor and converts it into a 0-5V analog signal that feeds to the sharktuner. The LM-1 has the same function but includes an AFR display.

2 issues:

1. Brad doesn't have sharktuner, he's got a TEC GT.

http://www.electromotive-inc.com/wp-...Manual-2.3.pdf


2. The thing Brad's holding up isn't an LC-1, nor is it an LM-1. It looks more like an XD-16, which (unless I'm mistaken based on 30 seconds of reading in the manual linked below) is just a gauge, it's not a wideband controller.

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/s...D16_Manual.pdf


The manual for the TEC GT has info about connecting WB02 controllers on pages 94 and 95.

So you have 2 problems:

1- You have a 5-pin WBO2 sensor but no controller to connect it to.

2. That #258-007-057 sensor (AKA Bosch 17014) is plug and play with an LC-1 or an LM-1, but not any of the currently available WBO2 controllers from Innovate. So to use it you'll have to find a good used LC-1 or LM-1. The alternative would be to just go buy a new MTX-L and be done with it, and return that 17014 to Roger.
Old 06-29-2015 | 04:18 PM
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you are missing the controller for that gauge/sensor. i have a version of that gauge, but you don't "need" a gauge, just the controller to talk to the tuning software.
(edit after rob beat me to it)


MTx-l is what i have. easy peasy
Old 06-29-2015 | 06:45 PM
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Ducman, I've used the Spartan 2 controller from 14point7.com on several builds. Cheap and reliable, so far.
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Old 06-29-2015 | 07:05 PM
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thats a nice one as well. i know a few people with it.



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