Welcome #73 928 1979 to rennlist!
#31
Rennlist Member
interesting way to make posts; I'll have to try that since I hate to type.
Nevertheless, I agree with what the others are saying and implying. The amount of effort that will be required to take this car back to the condition you want it in will far exceed its value, at least for a good number of years still. Therefore, get the best deal that you can find for appearance items, like interior bits, and do not worry that they are not from the original model year. I know you said you are keeping the cork dash, but I don't see how you can. That dash is just too far gone. Everything inside has to come out. Likewise, everything under the hood has to come apart, and much of it replaced, as well as everything behind the wheel well covers, and so on.
The early cars are a GREAT investment - but they are a HOLD. You will get nowhere by putting $20K into it (a conservative estimate for that car) and then selling it. With almost 150K on the clock (assuming the odo even works), this is not a high dollar example at this time in the value cycle (IMHO of course).
I like the car. I love the color combo (there is another one around here on rennlist, but in near pristine shape - look at it for guidance and inspiration). If it were mine, I'd fix it too, but to keep it.
Nevertheless, I agree with what the others are saying and implying. The amount of effort that will be required to take this car back to the condition you want it in will far exceed its value, at least for a good number of years still. Therefore, get the best deal that you can find for appearance items, like interior bits, and do not worry that they are not from the original model year. I know you said you are keeping the cork dash, but I don't see how you can. That dash is just too far gone. Everything inside has to come out. Likewise, everything under the hood has to come apart, and much of it replaced, as well as everything behind the wheel well covers, and so on.
The early cars are a GREAT investment - but they are a HOLD. You will get nowhere by putting $20K into it (a conservative estimate for that car) and then selling it. With almost 150K on the clock (assuming the odo even works), this is not a high dollar example at this time in the value cycle (IMHO of course).
I like the car. I love the color combo (there is another one around here on rennlist, but in near pristine shape - look at it for guidance and inspiration). If it were mine, I'd fix it too, but to keep it.
#32
Nordschleife Master
I haven't bothered watching the videos - it would involve stopping the music I've got going at the moment (my PC is wired to the Aux input of the amp in my office).
Profit - the cold hearted short-term approach would be to do the bare minimum to improve the value of the car, which is:
1. Get it running (CIS troubleshooting)
2. Clean the crap out of it and add cheap aftermarket vinyl seat covers yourself
Then sell it and run before you fall in love and your wallet gets excited. You've bought at the wrong end of the market to make much profit.
If you're in it for the long haul, and specifically want a huge project with lots of hours of free time spent, then careful restoration back to factory-look is the way to go, as you've got a petrol blue/cork/5speed 78/79 car.
That means proper respray in petrol blue, and replace worn parts of the interior with correct original colour ones from a donor car (ideally another 79), plus fixing any non-working mechanicals and electrics. It also means proper budget, and getting this car up to a 3 on the hagerty scale would cost you a lot more than the car could be worth in the current market, so you'd have to wait until values rise a lot to get out with a profit.
Profit - the cold hearted short-term approach would be to do the bare minimum to improve the value of the car, which is:
1. Get it running (CIS troubleshooting)
2. Clean the crap out of it and add cheap aftermarket vinyl seat covers yourself
Then sell it and run before you fall in love and your wallet gets excited. You've bought at the wrong end of the market to make much profit.
If you're in it for the long haul, and specifically want a huge project with lots of hours of free time spent, then careful restoration back to factory-look is the way to go, as you've got a petrol blue/cork/5speed 78/79 car.
That means proper respray in petrol blue, and replace worn parts of the interior with correct original colour ones from a donor car (ideally another 79), plus fixing any non-working mechanicals and electrics. It also means proper budget, and getting this car up to a 3 on the hagerty scale would cost you a lot more than the car could be worth in the current market, so you'd have to wait until values rise a lot to get out with a profit.
#35
Instructor
Thread Starter
I'm guessing the rubber fuel lines go to dangerous every five years with all that heat on them.
A day at a time.
I'm glad I did not rush and start it up yesterday, no sense in damaging up the cis system. That distributer is expensive.
#36
Shameful Thread Killer
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Well, the CIS is thrashed anyway, but it's better not to make it worse. It can be rebuilt, or you can disassemble and clean the heck out if it yourself if you're feeling lucky.
#38
Three Wheelin'
Wayne,
Not sure if you saw this post, but if this sale goes through then your plan to make some dough on your petrol blue '79 resto might just work.
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-standard.html
Not sure if you saw this post, but if this sale goes through then your plan to make some dough on your petrol blue '79 resto might just work.
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-standard.html
#39
Rennlist Member
Yeah but if he gets in whipped into shape and goes for a drive, he'll probably fall in love with it and will no longer want to sell it. Once you fix it, it's your baby!
#40
Instructor
Thread Starter
Wayne,
Not sure if you saw this post, but if this sale goes through then your plan to make some dough on your petrol blue '79 resto might just work.
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-standard.html
Not sure if you saw this post, but if this sale goes through then your plan to make some dough on your petrol blue '79 resto might just work.
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-standard.html
I need $6000 to buy and fix the car. Needs waterpump, does not go into any gears. maybe just a slave.
#41
Instructor
Thread Starter
The day of the $100,000 928 is here. Prepare yourself. I'll probably be the first guy to get $100K for a 1979. I'll most likely be shipping it to china. I might even consider leasing the car for $30,000 for five years. Get full insurance for $100K. There is no car in the world with this much built in fun and potential for absurdity.
#42
Addict
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Wayne,
Congrats on your 79!!
I have #70 also built in 8/78.
Would be nice to have them "in the same room" again one day like they were at the factory...
Congrats on your 79!!
I have #70 also built in 8/78.
Would be nice to have them "in the same room" again one day like they were at the factory...
#43
Addict
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Wayne,
Cork/black as you mentioned looks pretty good. Most of the accents in cork cars are already black. (Pod, trim, seat belts, etc)
I started w rear deck in black, moved to floor mats, and will eventually do the rest of the carpet in black...
(The cork carpet I've seen samples of, is more reddish vs burnt orange)
Also, your interior is vinyl (Leatherette). Your dash, center console, door pulls, etc.
Thinking your seats were leather though from the looks of some of the perforated holes in the original pieces I see.
Best of luck w the restoration!
Looks like she's all there, just needs lots of Love!
Cork/black as you mentioned looks pretty good. Most of the accents in cork cars are already black. (Pod, trim, seat belts, etc)
I started w rear deck in black, moved to floor mats, and will eventually do the rest of the carpet in black...
(The cork carpet I've seen samples of, is more reddish vs burnt orange)
Also, your interior is vinyl (Leatherette). Your dash, center console, door pulls, etc.
Thinking your seats were leather though from the looks of some of the perforated holes in the original pieces I see.
Best of luck w the restoration!
Looks like she's all there, just needs lots of Love!
#45
Instructor
Thread Starter
Get the Popcorn!
I need your advice on that sound.
The good news is that it started and ran. Probably has good oil pressure. Ran 20 seconds. You saw it with me.
What should be my next steps.
Thanks for the help.