DIY 928 Transaxle Rebuild
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James,
Thanks for reminding me how simple that job is! I went up to the garage today and had the swap done in 30 minutes. We took another 30 minutes to bleed the system and then took her out. Still not quite right so back under and adjusted the pushrod. Voila! i-i-i-i-i-i-i-t's a-l-i-v-e; i-i-i-i-i-i-i-T'S A-l-i-v-e! I-I-I-I-I-I-I-T'S A-L-I-I-I-I-V-E!!!!!!!
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Thanks for reminding me how simple that job is! I went up to the garage today and had the swap done in 30 minutes. We took another 30 minutes to bleed the system and then took her out. Still not quite right so back under and adjusted the pushrod. Voila! i-i-i-i-i-i-i-t's a-l-i-v-e; i-i-i-i-i-i-i-T'S A-l-i-v-e! I-I-I-I-I-I-I-T'S A-L-I-I-I-I-V-E!!!!!!!
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Finding such a modification on a 928 would lead me to believe corners were cut on everything else ever performed on the car and I'll go into such a vehicle assuming it's a basket case.
Do the job the right way or pay someone else to.
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Everyone is entitled to an opinion. As I see it the Porsche automobile is rife with "Upgrades" which IMHO are simple ECO's disguised as buyer paid improvements. The fact that no thought was ever given to properly servicing the clutch master or the notorious "blue hose" leads me to believe there would have eventually been such an "upgrade".
Having played both the perfectionist and hacker I can see both sides of the argument. That said my dual electric fans powered by a pulse modulated power supply and temperature controller is a "hack" - rather elegant one![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Anyway the job was accomplished without cutting, maiming or otherwise "hacking" Inga. She is happily sitting in the bay waiting to be taken to the alignment shop. Amazingly our string and measurement alignment was close enough to keep the tires from scrubbing or the car darting all over the road![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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Having played both the perfectionist and hacker I can see both sides of the argument. That said my dual electric fans powered by a pulse modulated power supply and temperature controller is a "hack" - rather elegant one
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Anyway the job was accomplished without cutting, maiming or otherwise "hacking" Inga. She is happily sitting in the bay waiting to be taken to the alignment shop. Amazingly our string and measurement alignment was close enough to keep the tires from scrubbing or the car darting all over the road
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Everyone is entitled to an opinion. As I see it the Porsche automobile is rife with "Upgrades" which IMHO are simple ECO's disguised as buyer paid improvements. The fact that no thought was ever given to properly servicing the clutch master or the notorious "blue hose" leads me to believe there would have eventually been such an "upgrade".
Yes, I've done this job more than once.
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Erik,
I have never removed the booster, clutch master or blue hose with the engine in the car so I don't have freedom of speech. My experience with the 10" booster tells me its not going to be friendly.
My focus was more on the "hacks" statement. I do get your point however consider this.
Are the following hacks?
Inga (1978 RoW) among other things received the following:
A 10 inch booster which required planishing the inner fender well to allow proper clearance between booster and inner well.
MSD ignition.
Cayman S rotors and Brembo calipers.
Tuned X-pipe requiring significant modification of the cross member.
Swapping the 4.5L smog engine for a 310HP 4.7L RoW engine.
1984.5 S.S. headers and dual exhaust from the X-pipe back.
Electronically controlled, pulse modulated dual electric cooling fans.
From my 45 years of vehicular addiction, hacks come in two basic forms:
1) Elegant modification to an object to improve operational performance or serviceability with thoughtful consideration of the effects of the changes to the object.
2) Thoughtless and many times butchered modification to an object with the singular goal of expediency to accomplish a task. The modification is made without consideration of the overall effect of the change to the object as a whole.
I have done a museum quality resto, pseudo "barn finds" and everything in between. While I may hack - I never butcher.
Many times a restoration requires repairing a butcher job. Maybe there are so many 928's languishing we can be a bit cavalier about salvaging them. But if the 928 had been owned by Steve McQueen and it was butchered, I rather doubt it would be relegated to the scrap heap![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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I have never removed the booster, clutch master or blue hose with the engine in the car so I don't have freedom of speech. My experience with the 10" booster tells me its not going to be friendly.
My focus was more on the "hacks" statement. I do get your point however consider this.
Are the following hacks?
Inga (1978 RoW) among other things received the following:
A 10 inch booster which required planishing the inner fender well to allow proper clearance between booster and inner well.
MSD ignition.
Cayman S rotors and Brembo calipers.
Tuned X-pipe requiring significant modification of the cross member.
Swapping the 4.5L smog engine for a 310HP 4.7L RoW engine.
1984.5 S.S. headers and dual exhaust from the X-pipe back.
Electronically controlled, pulse modulated dual electric cooling fans.
From my 45 years of vehicular addiction, hacks come in two basic forms:
1) Elegant modification to an object to improve operational performance or serviceability with thoughtful consideration of the effects of the changes to the object.
2) Thoughtless and many times butchered modification to an object with the singular goal of expediency to accomplish a task. The modification is made without consideration of the overall effect of the change to the object as a whole.
I have done a museum quality resto, pseudo "barn finds" and everything in between. While I may hack - I never butcher.
Many times a restoration requires repairing a butcher job. Maybe there are so many 928's languishing we can be a bit cavalier about salvaging them. But if the 928 had been owned by Steve McQueen and it was butchered, I rather doubt it would be relegated to the scrap heap
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Here's how I see it:
Can the repair be completed without cutting the hole?
Yes?
Then it's a hack and would be a huge red flag if I were looking the car over.
The idea of cutting a hole in the fender to simply change out a stock part for a new stock part is beyond my comprehension. I'd pull the motor if necessary before cutting that hole.
Can the repair be completed without cutting the hole?
Yes?
Then it's a hack and would be a huge red flag if I were looking the car over.
The idea of cutting a hole in the fender to simply change out a stock part for a new stock part is beyond my comprehension. I'd pull the motor if necessary before cutting that hole.
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I think we're in violent agreement with the exception of pulling an engine to swap out a clutch master cylinder - unless it was a McQueen car or a Ferrari
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Sounds good. It's always a little nerve racking driving them right after several repairs have been made...or while you wait for the suspension to settle back down.
I'm glad you were able to make the repairs necessary without removing the engine or cutting the inner fender. It's always nice when something goes better than planned...for once.
Nice area to do a test-drive, too. Reminds me of when l drove the 944 to the east coast, through up state NY, NH, VT and ME. Excellent secondary roads throughout, never touched an expressway after we went north of Syracuse.
Congratulations, on getting the old girl on the road.
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I'm glad you were able to make the repairs necessary without removing the engine or cutting the inner fender. It's always nice when something goes better than planned...for once.
Nice area to do a test-drive, too. Reminds me of when l drove the 944 to the east coast, through up state NY, NH, VT and ME. Excellent secondary roads throughout, never touched an expressway after we went north of Syracuse.
Congratulations, on getting the old girl on the road.
Brian.
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Brian,
Thanks, yes all you said is very satisfying. And thanks to Erik for the friendly philosophic banner![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
My shop is in the heart of what you call "the scenic routes" here in NH
The dirt road is where my shop is. The pavement is Route 47 Francestown NH.
Now I move on to interior cosmetics and window regulators :/
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Thanks, yes all you said is very satisfying. And thanks to Erik for the friendly philosophic banner
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My shop is in the heart of what you call "the scenic routes" here in NH
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The dirt road is where my shop is. The pavement is Route 47 Francestown NH.
Now I move on to interior cosmetics and window regulators :/
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I agree 110%. I've rejected a couple cars on a pre-purchase inspection for this hack job. Cars with this hack need to proceed directly to the nearest dismantler.
The other one that really gripes me is when someone with an automatic cuts the bell housing "brace" to remove the torque tube. Even though that one can be "undone" with used bell housing, seeing this is like using a cheese grader on my brain.
It is really simple.....I've got no tolerance for lazy.
The other one that really gripes me is when someone with an automatic cuts the bell housing "brace" to remove the torque tube. Even though that one can be "undone" with used bell housing, seeing this is like using a cheese grader on my brain.
It is really simple.....I've got no tolerance for lazy.
Here's how I see it:
Can the repair be completed without cutting the hole?
Yes?
Then it's a hack and would be a huge red flag if I were looking the car over.
The idea of cutting a hole in the fender to simply change out a stock part for a new stock part is beyond my comprehension. I'd pull the motor if necessary before cutting that hole.
Can the repair be completed without cutting the hole?
Yes?
Then it's a hack and would be a huge red flag if I were looking the car over.
The idea of cutting a hole in the fender to simply change out a stock part for a new stock part is beyond my comprehension. I'd pull the motor if necessary before cutting that hole.
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I think the hack has been beaten to death, resurrected and beaten to death again ![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Happily Inga has enjoyed modifications, upgrades and improvements free of hacks. There are zero non-factory holes in Inga with exception to the front air splitter mounting. Even the AFR cables were fed thru existing factory holes.
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Happily Inga has enjoyed modifications, upgrades and improvements free of hacks. There are zero non-factory holes in Inga with exception to the front air splitter mounting. Even the AFR cables were fed thru existing factory holes.
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Have you had a chance to mess around with the ride height? It may not have settled completely, since you've had her in the air so much, but she seems a bit high in the last picture (which totally discussed me...her being behind the other car like that...should be the other way around...lol). Mine was close to her height, but not quite.
Anyhow, I worked on mine a few weeks ago, lowering the front, which helped alleviate the problem I'd been having with the left rear being so low and not going anywhere when l tried adjusting it. Anyway, finally had a chance to drive it yesterday and it was like a completely different car. Handled much better and seemed to put some weight forward...which made the car's front brakes seem more enhanced. Before, if I braked heavy...the front end seemed like it was light and lock-up would happen. Had no issues with that yesterday.
It drove so nice...may drive it again today!
Brian.
Anyhow, I worked on mine a few weeks ago, lowering the front, which helped alleviate the problem I'd been having with the left rear being so low and not going anywhere when l tried adjusting it. Anyway, finally had a chance to drive it yesterday and it was like a completely different car. Handled much better and seemed to put some weight forward...which made the car's front brakes seem more enhanced. Before, if I braked heavy...the front end seemed like it was light and lock-up would happen. Had no issues with that yesterday.
It drove so nice...may drive it again today!
Brian.