928 Pasche pattern formula?
#46
Race Car
Jerry--
If you translate that into inches(x) and inches(y) for each block in the 20x20 numbers matrix I can drop that into the CAD file as parameters and pretty quickly generate an image (PDF or EPS) or Gerber for the actual fabric plotting if that's what it takes.. Post,share it as an excel file and none will be lost in translation. Column(n) widths, Row(n) heights. Or formulas for each.
If you translate that into inches(x) and inches(y) for each block in the 20x20 numbers matrix I can drop that into the CAD file as parameters and pretty quickly generate an image (PDF or EPS) or Gerber for the actual fabric plotting if that's what it takes.. Post,share it as an excel file and none will be lost in translation. Column(n) widths, Row(n) heights. Or formulas for each.
#47
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#48
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I see that there is a way to adjust the width of each of the segments so that the cluster of larger squares look much more circular. I don't think I'll go there, however.
Or, maybe not.
Or, maybe not.
#49
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I think that the serrations are a function of the weave and not the pattern. In the pattern all the lines are straight and parallel and/or perpendicular, so they are true rectangles.
#50
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You may be right. I am far from an expert on textiles, but you'd think if they wanted to make a pattern without the serrations they could have. And doesn't the weave go both in the horizontal a vertical directions? If so, then why are there not serrations on the long side of the rectangles?
#51
Nordschleife Master
Are there three bands in the small section that are the same width?
#52
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You may be right. I am far from an expert on textiles, but you'd think if they wanted to make a pattern without the serrations they could have. And doesn't the weave go both in the horizontal a vertical directions? If so, then why are there not serrations on the long side of the rectangles?
#53
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I guess I don't understand this. I actually worked up the spacing of the lines working numerous times from each end of the scale in order to get the spacing kind of evenly progressive and still fit the length needed.
#54
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Here is what one section of the new pattern looks like mostly by itself and in the horizontal orientation. Half of the outer edges will be common with the adjoining segments of the same pattern, so repeat is in the middle of the outer rows of blocks.
I'll ink in some more of it to show the basic pattern as I see it with the 45 degree orientation.
I'll ink in some more of it to show the basic pattern as I see it with the 45 degree orientation.
#55
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Jerry --
I'm stuck working on a little turbine process model for the next day or so. I'll get some numbers loaded for the Pascha and an image file up to look at sometime early next week.
The Pascha model uses dynamic blocks with dimensions from a parameter file. The "repeat" is defined now at 20 columns/20 rows, same as the image of the fabric rolled out on the hood. Q: Is there a reason you choose not to use that repeat number in yours? (appears to be 18...)
I'm stuck working on a little turbine process model for the next day or so. I'll get some numbers loaded for the Pascha and an image file up to look at sometime early next week.
The Pascha model uses dynamic blocks with dimensions from a parameter file. The "repeat" is defined now at 20 columns/20 rows, same as the image of the fabric rolled out on the hood. Q: Is there a reason you choose not to use that repeat number in yours? (appears to be 18...)
#56
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Doc, the pattern on the hood has 19 horizontal rows and 20 vertical rows. The pattern repeats on lines from the centers of the four groups of the four largest squares. The pattern is not symmetrical. There is a very small white or light colored square in about the center of the pattern and then 10 rows left of it, 9 rows right of in, then 9 rows each above and below it. The widths of the rows are not progressive and that causes some visual flaws in it. I don't know if the pattern is square or not.
My design is intended to meet a specific upholstery application and in order for the separate cushion sections to have the pattern centered on each one the pattern has to meet my measurement. Starting with that and some general desire about the size of the various blocks has given rise to the progression I designed and results in 18 rows each way with the outer of those being only half rows for pattern repeat.
I don't think the Porsche factory designed the pattern, but if they did they did it poorly. I don't think it was designed to fit any particular application, but rather was simply found somewhere and adapted.
My design is intended to meet a specific upholstery application and in order for the separate cushion sections to have the pattern centered on each one the pattern has to meet my measurement. Starting with that and some general desire about the size of the various blocks has given rise to the progression I designed and results in 18 rows each way with the outer of those being only half rows for pattern repeat.
I don't think the Porsche factory designed the pattern, but if they did they did it poorly. I don't think it was designed to fit any particular application, but rather was simply found somewhere and adapted.
Last edited by Jerry Feather; 10-18-2017 at 11:58 AM.
#57
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Now here is the new pattern in the 45 degree orientation and including one repeatable pattern at least out to the middle of the outer rows of what are now diamonds. I think it is going to do just what I need for it to do.
It will be interesting to see if Dr Bob can come up with the same pattern in a form that might be much more usable for someone to print this pattern on leather.
It will be interesting to see if Dr Bob can come up with the same pattern in a form that might be much more usable for someone to print this pattern on leather.
#58
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I am also finding it interesting and desirable that the "secondary" appearance of the grouping of larger blocks has now taken on a more circular appearance than in the earlier version where they are a little more squarish. I had mentioned that that might be accomplished with some adjustment in the progression of the band widths, but here it is purely by accident.
#60
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Doc, the pattern on the hood has 19 horizontal rows and 20 vertical rows. The pattern repeats on lines from the centers of the four groups of the four largest squares. The pattern is not symmetrical. There is a very small white or light colored square in about the center of the pattern and then 10 rows left of it, 9 rows right of in, then 9 rows each above and below it. The widths of the rows are not progressive and that causes some visual flaws in it. I don't know if the pattern is square or not.