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Old 09-02-2003, 06:15 PM
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Price: Well if a Boxster if 50K and a 911 is 70K, the new 928 has to be 80K. like Nicole I'd have to wait 10 yrs until they were 50K used.

I'd like to see Aluminum panels again, 50/50 wt dist, two doors. Turbo option, but 350 hp non turbo, 3000 lbs. would be OK, but it must be noticeable in the "solid feel" of it. They could just take the exact car from '95 and update it for safety etc, and electronics and offer it as an S6 - Ruf
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>They could just take the exact car from '95 and update it for safety etc, and electronics and offer it as an S6 - Ruf

I agree - I don't think they ever would though - but it wouldn't need much styling modification to 'update' the GTS probably. Maybe they have a few old shells sitting around and some nice ricer/beetle bodykits? Simplify the electrics, swap cowhide for carbon and it might work.

A limited edition retro GTS2... mmmmmm
Old 09-02-2003, 07:46 PM
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If I sign this petition, would I be obligated to buy it before it's 20 years old?
Old 09-02-2003, 11:13 PM
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Originally posted by Rufus Sanders
like Nicole I'd have to wait 10 yrs until they were 50K used.

The baseline 996 is $82K unoptioned. If you have not noticed the uesd car market for 996's and Boxster has had the bottom falling out of it. Three years later, I have seen prices for used 1999 Carrera 2's for under $40K. If that is any indication of what the price will be for a used $80K Porsches then the wait may only be a few years to put it into your driveway as a used car.

By the way, this is not unusual and limited to Porsche only- I recently saw a $200K Ferrari 550 Maranello dipping into the high ninety's and the formerly esteemed Testerossa's are being found into the 40's as well.
Old 09-04-2003, 03:30 PM
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I would buy one but of course the price would be prohibitive. If I could buy a car that looked like the 989 that Nicole listed I would, I think not producing that car was a mistake. In the '80's there was a major problem at Porsche between the Porsche family and Erns Fuhrmann over front-engined watercooled cars vs the 911. Fuhrmann lost and the 911 was revived. I thought I would never see another 928. Now we have the Cayenne and an upcoming smallcar, and the 996 is basically a 928 in different shape with its engine in the rear. Plus, we have a Carrera GT coming that is so un-911 that I have to believe Porsche have turned a corner. So, as it stands, I would be very unsurprised if they did announce another V8 sportscar. The thing that seems to stand in its way, is the Carrera GT. Porsche are already producing a V10, why would they build a V8? I think the 928 may already have been superseded by the Carrera GT.
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Not quite the overwhelmng response. Maybe when it becomes closer to being a reality more folks will be interested.

Detopping...
Old 09-05-2003, 08:10 PM
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Old 09-05-2003, 11:03 PM
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Originally posted by Randy V
Not quite the overwhelmng response. Maybe when it becomes closer to being a reality more folks will be interested.

Detopping...
Ya know Randy, I am not actually suprised. It is a clear representation of why Porsche will likely NOT build this car again and, discontinued it in the first place...little- to- no support for it. As Ferry Porsche said (as Jim B indicated)- "We built what we thought they wanted and unfortunately the 928 did not sell well". Sorry, but I think this is the harsh and lamenting reality of of the 928...ONLY 24 VOTES...how pitiful!

Lets face it- there is lots of talk but little walk...which I guess is why I drive a 996 today. It's not very hard to rally the 911 community, perhaps even the 944 and Boxster community, but our 928 brothers in our 928 community are ..wishy washy at best...sorry guys I do not mean to bash.

If I wanted to drive a NEW Porsche and waited for the 928 to return I would be walking to take an old age dirt nap!
Old 09-06-2003, 12:31 AM
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I don't know if 928 owners are wishy washy, so much as broke.

Of us L-jet and K-jet owners, I dought one of us purchased our car for more than 8,000, and if they did, it was not for more than 10,000. I dought many of the newer car owners bought their's for more than 20 grand. The style of person that could afford a new 928, when it was new, wouldn't keep the car for 7 years. They sold it to someone and bought a 996, or something. The some one that bought the 928 didn't pay any where near 80k for it.

I've NEVER had 80 grand in my power, and it will be some time before I do, if I ever do. You can't ask me to support a new Porsche in the 80 grand price range, because I don't have that kind of money, and am at least 4 years from that sort of cash, and I sure as hell ain't buying a Porsche on credit!

I love to, but there's a reason I'm driving a 20 year old car, it's because I can't afford a GTS dang it! The older the 928s get, the broker the owners are going to be, as the price goes down, untill they are collecter cars. You won't find much support for an 80 grand car from us. Heck, I can't imagion buying a car for 35 grand...

If Porsche introduces a new 928 styles car, and wants it to sell well in the US, they need to set their sights on the standard around here, the Corvette and the Viper. You wanna win sales in the US, beat the Corvette, and the Viper. Catering to the old 928 crowd will not sell cars.
Old 09-06-2003, 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by ViribusUnits
I don't know if 928 owners are wishy washy, so much as broke.

Of us L-jet and K-jet owners, I dought one of us purchased our car for more than 8,000, and if they did, it was not for more than 10,000. I dought many of the newer car owners bought their's for more than 20 grand. The style of person that could afford a new 928, when it was new, wouldn't keep the car for 7 years. They sold it to someone and bought a 996, or something. The some one that bought the 928 didn't pay any where near 80k for it.

Viribus, I am glad you said what I have been trying to say is actually the truth as it relates to an 80K 928 or front engined Porsche. Over in the 996 board in the 998 discussion "TV- Tom" has been trash talking to try and make some kind of *** out me for saying what I think we all understand the truth is. Personally, I think he is living in some kind of vacuum and has never owned any type of Porsche, much less driven one. The likelyhood he would be willing to buy the Porsche 928 he suggests Porsche build is not likely either...he may only get a thrill out of simply talking to Porsche salesmen jerking their chain and never buying a damn thing !


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I drove 911's of that time brand new and they were as they still are fun, awesome cars but really no comparison to the 928. The 928's technology was advanced in materials, construction, design. OH Boy... you will simply get abused here in this arguement- The 928 shared SOME its great technology with the 959... again a 911. Do you want to go there?
If you have not figured it out yet, I am playing the devils advocate because I understand the merits and beauty of both cars, as do a few other here, these arguments have been made for years and your not hitting the real value points of the 928. Your points would simply get shot down if you continued on this flight path


The ergonomics of the driving experience compare favorably to anything. The seat is the most comfortable, best positioned drivers seat that i know of, visibility is great, and in contrast to the 911 the cabin is quiet unless you want to hear engine, etc. by opening windows. And as far as handling, well any 928 driver will tell you how well it corners. Yes but at what expense? Weight! The 928 is so heavy by comparision to the 911 that 0-60, braking, and cornering, could be acheived with ease in the 911. As a 928 driver I will say that the car does have effortless handling but that is like trying to compare the performance and grace of a 747 to a F-18 Hornet. There maybe a lot less class in the handling of a 911 by comparison to a 928 but it is awfully nimble

If production had continued (say no economic downturns since 1990), then the current 928 would have 475 hp, paddle shifters, active suspension, wider rubber, etc. OH Yea??? Says who? Although, I would put good money on a 400HP 928 had it remained alive today, there was no indication of such big jumps in normally aspirated HP increases for the 928 after the 345HP GTS. AND with F1 paddle shifters, wide rubber and... anything else on the dream list? Oh, by the way, when would you be able to crack open your wallet and afford such a monster of Porsche. The 928 was already far to expensive for the wallets of many people that could afford to buy it or, a Ferrari or, a Lambo- which is WAAAAAAY outside Porsche's "production car consumer market". The 911 twin turbo was already a stretch and how many GT2's and GT3's get sold in a year? Your dream 928 would be competing in some ROUGH TERRITORY!
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Old 09-07-2003, 11:01 PM
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Front engine AWD sequential gear box V8 twin turbo 50/50 weight good brakes 3000lbs any car nut would buy it if he/she had the money
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Originally posted by 84n/a944Smith
Front engine AWD sequential gear box V8 twin turbo 50/50 weight good brakes 3000lbs any car nut would buy it if he/she had the money

Yep,,, key words!
Old 09-08-2003, 04:34 AM
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DoubleNutz,
You said we have to be realistic -
OK, for us living in Denmark that's not possible 'for normal' people to pay for such a car -
Due to the tax system we 'buy on and pay for three'!
So I will not participate in your sweet dream!
Old 09-08-2003, 05:28 AM
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If you add "convertible" to your list of options (SL500-style retractable hardtop) and I happened to live somewhere else (as Erik said, an $80K car in DK is really going to cost you $225K), then FWIW, YES, I would pre-order.

Hell, I'd scrape together $100K if I had to - that would seem a rather good deal actually - not even twice what I paid for my 15 YO 928.

I do not, however, think that your "MSRP" is even remotely realistic. A 500SL (which would be a comparable car in my opinion) starts at $320K around here - and is arguably a much higher volume car than a new 928 would ever be.

Would I pre-order a $150K 928 revival (say, $405K in DK)? Nah, that same amount would get me a rather large house in a very nice neighborhood. Or my F355 dreamcar + an older model SL500 for daily driving. Or heaven knows how many supercharged 928s



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