JEC_31

There's a fine line between being a Negative Nancy and being a Realist.
James Bailey has an unfathomable amount of experience in the 928 world, where he witnessed fortunes spent fixing these wonderful cars - sometimes with unfortunate consequences.
Everything he posted is a observation based on first-hand experience - he is a realist.

It's a realist fact that 928 = D$T (disposable time and money). It is a valuable service to point this out and prepare people for the true costs.

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Oh lawdy someone with D$T please buy this diamond in the not-too-rough.

- Josh

linderpat

I'm guessing you don't know who Jim is. Do a search of old Jim Bailey 928 International posts. Jim is one of the deans of the list. Sometimes the internet screws up the nuance in the conversation.

James Bailey

You are certainly entitled to have your opinion...... and once you have sold a few million dollars on 928 parts.... I might even listen....

mr914

I'm aware who you are, I'm also aware of the top 928 mechanic in the US, and 928 international since I live 10 miles from both places, but .... I'm just saying it's possible to restore a 928 on a budget. If your resourceful.

James Bailey

That sir is one very big " IF " ..... and I find the disservice to be enabling poor unsuspecting potential owners to get involved in a project which they can not afford and can not work their way out of.
An old 928 can be a great hobby for someone who ENJOYS working on it has the space, time' and tools to devote to it and has other cars to drive during the process.... and you are correct 914s and especially early 911s are now being offered for stupid money and the tide just MIGHT come in for 928s as well.. But buying any car for future appreciation rarely works out....
That is just what people tell their wife to justify the "investment"

Jetdriver69

Not to be rude, but a total restore of a 928 on a budget...

I just fell off my bar stool I was laughing so hard.

Please don't ask my wife about the investment potential, it would end in violence. And I would be on the receiving end.

But in defense of my 928, I would have more money in a Mustang Coupe or old Camaro restore and I would much rather drive the 928. Forget about the $ you would have in a 'stang Fastback or 69 Charger.

Seriously, everyone giving their advise is only to prevent someone from getting in over their heads and becoming frustrated with their purchase.

If you feel comfortable with your decision and your ability to acquire parts cheaply and to do the work yourself, then go for it and post pictures.

mr914

Well maybe I'm a little spoiled living in So Cal. And I apologize if my comments were offensive to you. But resourceful is the key word not if. I have found 5 928's at junk yards in the past 12 months. visited 4 guys parting 928's out, and found fairly reasonable and knowledgeable 928 mechanic.I just think if a guy is willing to wrench on a complicated car like an 928, he should be smart enough to locate parts or whatever he needs to complete a project car at a reasonable price.

mr914

Ok I give up.. Maybe I'm just a cheap dude who is always searching for the next deal. Maybe that's why my daughters get mad when I visit them in Phoenix and I'm on Craigslist looking for wheels .. Like the Carerra III's with tires I bought for $525 or the Panamera wheels I bought in San Francisco for $300

bureau13

You can absolutely find good deals to make it more palatable, but with anything close to current prices, even those good deals are not going to add up to a financial win, in any but the rarest of cases. Who knows where the prices will go in the future, but I think it's doing a service to prospective new buyers that they know the only likely way this type of thing is a good idea is if you are looking for a project, and love the cars. The original question asked if it were "worth it," which tends to imply a financial consideration.

When I first posted about wanting to get a 928, I was initially shocked that most of the feedback was advising me against it, until I made it clear that I was aware (more or less ) what I was getting into, and didn't have unrealistic expectations, etc. Looking back, I definitely appreciate that feedback, even though I said to heck with these people and jumped in head first

Landseer

That one appears to be a real mess. I'm a bottom feeder with 5 in the driveway and I wouldn't pay more than $300 for that one and it needs to have the title with it at that price. Stripping the interior would require care and protective gear. Watch for needles and rats.

But in general I agree with your approach and appreciate the craigslist ads.

Best place to find them is an old guy's garage, though.

Bucko74

I agree. I'm no expert, but I have already sunk well over $10K into my 84S, and it was a good runner to start with. And I am in no way finished to get it back to its former glory. As sad as it is, unless you have bucket loads of cash and are happy to part with it so you can take pride in knowing you saved one, I'd say steer clear. It would be better to part it out and help to keep other sharks on the road.

Just my opinion only....

And yes, very sad to see one in this condition just through neglect.

mr914

Well I think this website and the others are invaluable resources when restoring a car. And of course 928 International has everything you will ever need. I had a what the heck moment on my last purchase. Some well known 928 guys were making fun of the car priced at $1000 on another website, saying stuff like, if the owner pays me $400 I will tow it away, blah , blah , blah .. So I drove to the guys house in my 928, checked out his car for 5 minutes, offered him $500 and towed it home.

Landseer

Post a link and we can all consider that one too.

But this one in Maryland appears to have nothing going for it whatsoever at any price.

mark kibort

I remember my "Free" 79........8,000 later...

bureau13

I am very intentionally NOT keeping records of parts costs for my car. I really do not want to know!