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Old 12-01-2014, 01:58 PM
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Yes with the right tools, you can do most anything on these cars. BTW I have 2 10mm speed wrenches...
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Only two? I have three. Now all I have to do is figure out how to use them all at the same time.
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I have two non speed wrench sets as well (one set of flares that I had to buy to do the fuel system that was another specialized tool job). I have used two at time, but that is about it...
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I just did this job. The trick was to support the engine from above so you can remove the cross member and rack. With that done and removing the starter the bolts were a direct access for a small socket and an extension. Seems the trick with these cars is knowing the steps involved in doing a particular job. Now the ones under the harmonic balancer were more difficult. But the good old Craftsman ratcheting box wrench with adjustable head did the trick. Still. Those bolts under the front of the motor took more time than the rest combined.
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Originally Posted by soontobered84
10mm ratchet wrench will be your best friend while doing this particular job.
I have them but there is not enough tension to "ratchet" once they brake loose
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Originally Posted by yardpro
I have them but there is not enough tension to "ratchet" once they brake loose
Use a thin long screwdriver to put pressure on the bolt so that the ratchet will ratchet.
Old 12-01-2014, 08:36 PM
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well i feel stupid now... thanks....lol
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I use my finger over the ratchet head. that always works... Have to use two hands sometime....
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i cant get my fat fingers in where these guys are

really.. this is the craziest design on an oil a i have ever seen
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First time I did this I used a standard combination wrench to get them loose, then fingers to pull them the rest of the way. Car was on a lift, no issues with access for some reason. Crossmember was out for MM's so access wasn't an issue there.

Steven, are you replacing the gasket or just snugging the existing bolts on the existing gasket. If replacing the gasket, the Great Circle Route with the crossmember dropped is actually the shortest distance between start and success. MM's and OPG are WYAIT tasks for each other, IMHO. Each takes the same massive amount of advanced cleaning in my limited experience.
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Originally Posted by yardpro
i cant get my fat fingers in where these guys are
+1 Necessity is the mother of invention
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dr bob...
i am doing the both the mm & opg

mucho cleaning.....thats an understatement...

unless you are dwayne.. his cars are always spotless...
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Originally Posted by yardpro
dr bob...
i am doing the both the mm & opg

mucho cleaning.....thats an understatement...

unless you are dwayne.. his cars are always spotless...
If there's any comfort, I doubt that any of them start out spotless. Mine gathers a certain amount of oil/dirt/crud/dust/etc whenever I drive it, only a tiny portion of which is from my car's fluids finding their way free of captivity. Even the nicest projects start downhill the first time they exit the garage. So... The first steps on almost any 928 project include drain, clean, clean, and then clean up from the cleaning, all before the wrench turning starts. I don't care for working with dirty hands, dirty parts, dirty tools, and the easiest way to minimize those exposures is by cleaning everything thoroughly in advance. Even with that effort, I still get to work with the dirty hands/parts/tools, but at least the total volume is manageable.


For the MM/OPG project, precleaning on a massive scale is needed. I start off with half a case of foamy engine brite, brushes, a power rinse, very tall stands or on the lift, big tarp to manage the mess, catch sump to recover the mess for disposal, and some throw-away clothes under the tyvek coveralls. Even after all that there are places that still aren't clean, like some top of crossmember troughs and the inside of the rack cavity above the protector plate.

For my own cars, engine, transmission, suspension and undercarriage cleaning is an ongoing mission. It's way easier to find and fix leaks if you can see where it's actually coming from. It's not an obsession. I'm not an addict. I can quit any time.



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