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Old 07-03-2014, 06:17 AM
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Owner of an '84 S L-Jet (US) and very interested...

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Sean, did you find a supplier for the timing belt sensor? We have a few in stock.

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Sean, did you find a supplier for the timing belt sensor? We have a few in stock.
928sRus - been selling them for nearly 10 years.

The only part we can't find is the 3 way for the digi dash oil pressure sender.
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Temp gauge sender connection is different between '87-88 and '89-95. Didn't see that mentioned.
Yes year specific when you order and easy between spade connectors and a AMP 2 way.

Each harness is matched to the model year and USA/CAN or ROW or derivative - Saudi, Swiss etc. etc.

CIS ROW is pretty complicated so Sean made those harnesses first and we have sold two already - both fitted and working as they should of course. See post #14 & #29 for confirmation.

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I buy and sell all the 928 products developed and made by the other key 928 parts suppliers - Paul Champagne, PorKen, Greg Brown, 928 International, ProjectNine & MotorSport SLC to name a few.

We would have been far better placed to sell the harnesses made by Carl at 928 MS instead of reinventing the wheel. But Carl has some "Paranoid" reasoning that we would copy his product if he were to allow us to purchase from him. Well guess what!!!!!! We did what he did and copied Porsche's product - no skin off our nose 8>) Competition is good.

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I may be wrong about the old ones being tinned copper but several of these that I've had apart look exactly like that to me and those I've shown the pictures to. It's really prevalent where all the wires group together above the alternator and the main reason I refuse to use that PVC/Plastic tubing on the harness. Water and oil gather there and it has no place to go so it eats everything. It seems worse on the later cars than the early cars. The new harnesses from Porsche are all copper core...from what I've seen so who knows. I've been wrong before and will be again I'm sure.

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Greg reminds us that Carl has been making this harness for a while now. Since we love all our sponsors, supporters and vendors, it's only fair to point this out. But the thread is about Sean and Roger's efforts, so back to that. You only get to pat yourself on the back every so often as a sponsor, so no need for more distraction I guess.
Carls harness is great stuff and had I not taken this on I would have ordered from him. He's sold a lot of them so far with good results.

Originally Posted by Rob Edwards
The trio of pins on the 89-95 oil pressure sender have the same form factor as the single pin on the 84-89 3.2L 911 and 3.3L 911 Turbo oil pressure sender. I think the senders are made by VDO- would they have supplied the rubber 3-pin connector as well?
Good thought. Will make some inquiries, thanks.

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Temp gauge sender connection is different between '87-88 and '89-95. Didn't see that mentioned.
Talked about a bit actually. I've been replacing the 3 pin sensors with the 2 pin. Works fine.

Originally Posted by Carl Fausett
Sean, did you find a supplier for the timing belt sensor? We have a few in stock.

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Thanks Carl, after we talked about that a couple years back I hadn't looked in to it any further. Rog informed me a month or so ago that he's been selling them for a bit. I just shook my head as asking him would have solved a bunch of hunting. Always learning.

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I buy and sell all the 928 products developed and made by the other key 928 parts suppliers - Paul Champagne, Greg Brown, 928 International, ProjectNine & MotorSport SLC to name a few.

We would have been far better placed to sell the harnesses made by Carl at 928 MS instead of reinventing the wheel. But Carl has some "Paranoid" reasoning that we would copy his product if he were to allow us to purchase from him. Well guess what!!!!!! We did what he did and copied Porsche's product - no skin off our nose 8>) Competition is good.
Play nice Rog. I was really looking forward to having the three of us at Jeffs gig so we could hash this out over some beers and all get along.
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I was really looking forward to having the three of us at Jeffs gig so we could hash this out over some beers and all get along.
Likewise - maybe Carl can still make it - drinks would be on me Carl.
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Default temp sensor

I changed and altered mine after buying porsche plug for the sensor on the intake.

I was able to source a NOS from Greg and I changed the plug and oil sender on the bottom of the motor as well to accommodate the different 2 pronged sender rather than the 3 prong like i had.

I plan on rebuilding my original harness... this thread will come in handy.

Hoping these pics help someone who is changing from new to old harness.

The last picture looks like I am trying to put it in like a 911.. haha Just noticed that.

Thanks,
Bryan

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Carl is probably that way for good reason; ie, because everyone here ****s on whatever it is he does...
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Some of you might be surprised what lurks under those rubber boots on your connectors.

MAF;


ICV;


Injector;



My '86 is undergoing an electrical renovation, one connector at a time.
It would be great to be able to get a whole new harness for the engine and injectors on my '86 without breaking the bank.

ETA: What is that round 3-pin connector in the MAF picture for. It seems to mount to the intake manifold but connects to nothing?
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Originally Posted by 17prospective buyer
Carl is probably that way for good reason; ie, because everyone here ****s on whatever it is he does...
That's totally not fair. We only **** on the bad stuff. I've always said his 14 pin wiring harness is a complete work of art, fits perfectly, works perfectly, and functions perfectly.

I just can't buy them...
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Roger:
I buy and sell all the 928 products developed and made by the other key 928 parts suppliers - Paul Champagne, Greg Brown, 928 International, ProjectNine & MotorSport SLC to name a few.

We would have been far better placed to sell the harnesses made by Carl at 928 MS instead of reinventing the wheel. But Carl has some "Paranoid" reasoning that we would copy his product if he were to allow us to purchase from him. Well guess what!!!!!! We did what he did and copied Porsche's product - no skin off our nose 8>) Competition is good.
Looking at the number of products you have come out with that are copies of our products (and not Porsche products) I'd say we were right to be concerned.

Try to come up with some new items yourself - we all need them. Plenty of items this car needs and I can't develop them all. New replacement parts or solutions for items that are no longer available would be better received than just a cheaper version of something they can already get.
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Looking at the number of products you have come out with that are copies of our products (and not Porsche products) I'd say we were right to be concerned.
Would you care to name them as I am not aware of any products that we sell that are the sole property/design of your company!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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Try to come up with some new items yourself - we all need them. Plenty of items this car needs and I can't develop them all. New replacement parts or solutions for items that are no longer available would be better received than just a cheaper version of something they can already get.
I am in the market of selling parts primarily and that is what we do. I occasionally produce a part because the market needs it and it is not available anywhere else. I leave the development of parts to the masters - Greg Brown, Sean Ratts, Paul Champagne, PorKen & Hans to mention a few. I will not produce a part that can be purchased from another source unless that source refuses to sell to my company. Hence I buy the parts from ALL the 928 parts suppliers apart from ONE and that is you.

When I look at your products I mostly see copies of what other people produce or have produced in the past - Devek catalog for an example. You develop parts for racing and for those that want to modify there cars - I DO NOT. We barely compete on anything at all and I am not in your section of the market - period.

I sell NEW parts and my competitors are Pelican & Vertex.
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. Hence I buy the parts from ALL the 928 parts suppliers apart from ONE and that is you.
Happy to be the exclusion. So - to get genuine 928 Motorsports Parts - remember to shop at 928 Motorsports!

Sorry about your thread Sean. We should take this somewhere else, Roger. Probably private.

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