Where are 928 prices going these days?
#16
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For some reason, the 928 reminds me of the Ferrari 308. Years ago those things bottom to the low 20's. What you could find for $23k-$27k then, is going for about 42k-55k now.
I hope the 928 follows suit, but we aren't exactly Italian.
I hope the 928 follows suit, but we aren't exactly Italian.
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I think if you are buying a 928 primarily as a driver - mileage matters much less than condition and proven maintenance. Only garage queens benefit much from low mileage, it could even make a driver a rather more expensive choice due to pure age related functional condition issues, hoses, belts, tires, seals could all actually be much worse than they look...
I hope they all go up...if not - at least the GTS cars!
Alan
I hope they all go up...if not - at least the GTS cars!
Alan
Last edited by Alan; 04-07-2014 at 06:21 PM.
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I was at a CSRG vintage event at Sonoma Raceway this past weekend. I was parked in the pits and a number of people were commenting and asking questions about 928's.
The first comment is was always "oh.... it's a 5 speed...cool"
Never before has there been any interest.
The first comment is was always "oh.... it's a 5 speed...cool"
Never before has there been any interest.
#21
OK, here's the troll again, saying show me the money. We go over and over this topic, and everyone, including myself, wants the 928 to increase in value. It has to, because it can't possibly go any lower. When "Hayden" buys a running, driving car for $2200, how could it be any lower, $1K?
"Spun" won't disclose his price, so now whatever he says has to be viewed with suspicion. The Hagerty value chart has nothing to do with value, because its based on agreed value, not a sales price. Here's a sales price - a 1990 with an auto trans, white with white, original owner, 37K miles, traded in at the dealership I work at. Cosmetically nice, the PSD light was illuminated, and the car was covered in fluid leaks from the front to the back (I saw it on the lift). When you opened the door and sat in the car, you immediately smelled mildew, although nothing was quickly visible, but water had to have been in the interior at some point. Sold on ebay for 17K.
And don't even mention Italian cars in the conversation - they have absolutely nothing to do with German cars, let alone 928s. As I've said over and over, until all the $2k 928s are gone, only the value of the 89 - 95 cars have any chance of being worth serious money, and as we all know, the production numbers after 88 went way way down.
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"Spun" won't disclose his price, so now whatever he says has to be viewed with suspicion. The Hagerty value chart has nothing to do with value, because its based on agreed value, not a sales price. Here's a sales price - a 1990 with an auto trans, white with white, original owner, 37K miles, traded in at the dealership I work at. Cosmetically nice, the PSD light was illuminated, and the car was covered in fluid leaks from the front to the back (I saw it on the lift). When you opened the door and sat in the car, you immediately smelled mildew, although nothing was quickly visible, but water had to have been in the interior at some point. Sold on ebay for 17K.
And don't even mention Italian cars in the conversation - they have absolutely nothing to do with German cars, let alone 928s. As I've said over and over, until all the $2k 928s are gone, only the value of the 89 - 95 cars have any chance of being worth serious money, and as we all know, the production numbers after 88 went way way down.
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#22
OK, here's the troll again, saying show me the money. We go over and over this topic, and everyone, including myself, wants the 928 to increase in value. It has to, because it can't possibly go any lower. When "Hayden" buys a running, driving car for $2200, how could it be any lower, $1K?
"Spun" won't disclose his price, so now whatever he says has to be viewed with suspicion. The Hagerty value chart has nothing to do with value, because its based on agreed value, not a sales price. Here's a sales price - a 1990 with an auto trans, white with white, original owner, 37K miles, traded in at the dealership I work at. Cosmetically nice, the PSD light was illuminated, and the car was covered in fluid leaks from the front to the back (I saw it on the lift). When you opened the door and sat in the car, you immediately smelled mildew, although nothing was quickly visible, but water had to have been in the interior at some point. Sold on ebay for 17K.
And don't even mention Italian cars in the conversation - they have absolutely nothing to do with German cars, let alone 928s. As I've said over and over, until all the $2k 928s are gone, only the value of the 89 - 95 cars have any chance of being worth serious money, and as we all know, the production numbers after 88 went way way down.
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"Spun" won't disclose his price, so now whatever he says has to be viewed with suspicion. The Hagerty value chart has nothing to do with value, because its based on agreed value, not a sales price. Here's a sales price - a 1990 with an auto trans, white with white, original owner, 37K miles, traded in at the dealership I work at. Cosmetically nice, the PSD light was illuminated, and the car was covered in fluid leaks from the front to the back (I saw it on the lift). When you opened the door and sat in the car, you immediately smelled mildew, although nothing was quickly visible, but water had to have been in the interior at some point. Sold on ebay for 17K.
And don't even mention Italian cars in the conversation - they have absolutely nothing to do with German cars, let alone 928s. As I've said over and over, until all the $2k 928s are gone, only the value of the 89 - 95 cars have any chance of being worth serious money, and as we all know, the production numbers after 88 went way way down.
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I've been watching, seeing, having hands on sold 928's for a few years now and the prices are going up, up and up. It's not the 89 to 95's only. It's the 77-79 and 93-95's that are skyrocketing and anything in between has to be something special. Low mile, odd colors or just something that is desirable. Several '87-'89's have sold in high territory here local, a few '85-86 have also. What you don't see going worth a damn are '80 to '84 cars. Their time will come as they get more rare and nicer cars are brought for sale. I can point to two '82's here that would fetch more than $20k if the owners were so inclined to sell. It's not their time though.
#23
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I'm apparently different. As these cars increase in value, so will the parts, mechanics and insurance. I only care about the price when I sell, which I'm not planning on doing (OK, $50k would do it).
Let's face it, these cars are a fun way to spend money, not make it. I'd be very happy for them to be an undiscovered (by the masses) gem.
Let's face it, these cars are a fun way to spend money, not make it. I'd be very happy for them to be an undiscovered (by the masses) gem.
#24
I'm apparently different. As these cars increase in value, so will the parts, mechanics and insurance. I only care about the price when I sell, which I'm not planning on doing (OK, $50k would do it).
Let's face it, these cars are a fun way to spend money, not make it. I'd be very happy for them to be an undiscovered (by the masses) gem.
Let's face it, these cars are a fun way to spend money, not make it. I'd be very happy for them to be an undiscovered (by the masses) gem.
I think the Hagerty values are fairly accurate. An 84 928s with up to date maintenance and no major flaws will cost about 7000 whether you spend it all at once or spend less and put the money into it over time.
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What strikes me about the Haggerty site is that their charts indicate a price jump in early 2013. However, while I remember a few high priced GTS models being sold, I never noticed a broader price increase until more recently. And my observation is that low miles and later models are the ones on the rise - there seem to be plenty of 87 and 88 models with low to mid mileage, but they are not selling like hotcakes.
Yes. and it proves that you did not have to travel 3000 miles to find another, as this one was right in your back yard. You were just being picky about the interior color... and this one was turnkey, while the other would have been a bit of a project.
A '91 is over 22 years old. Ones with under 40k miles are extremely rare, and getting rarer ever year, so, with a decent economy, the price premium has increased. Good 928s are difficult to find - there are lots of frogs out there. I had to travel over 3000 miles to find another.
Higher mileage cars, without exceptional maintenance, have not seen the same rise.
That eBay car (37k miles, well maintained) is the best indicator (for an auto) that I have seen, with the sale price being public ($31,450).
Higher mileage cars, without exceptional maintenance, have not seen the same rise.
That eBay car (37k miles, well maintained) is the best indicator (for an auto) that I have seen, with the sale price being public ($31,450).
#26
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Another problem as they increase in value is that they will become more valued by thiefs 2. Over here In Belgium there's more and more threads about cars that are stolen on the Porscheforum. I don't mind that it stay's low profile. I never bought it as an investment anyway.
#28
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The other is everyone who fell in love with a 928 in their teens is now in their 30's at the earliest and more likely in the 40's-50's with a decent income or some scratch saved up.
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