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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 02:02 AM
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Fellow 928 worshippers.

I'm preparing to have my 84S Euro AT repainted. A prospective body shop have quizzed me about the stoneguard / stippled paint finish each side or the car along both door sills. A previous PO who did some shoddy bodywork and paint, has painted over what ever was there with Silver paint (the car is actually zinc metallic), and has really made a mess of everything. So I have a few questions to anyone as to the original finish my car would have had straight out of the factory (I am trying to get everything back to original).
a) What is this finish? - is it a decal under the paint to create the finish, or is it actually in the application of the paint, or a special type of paint.
b) How far up from the body seam/drip lines on the lowest part of the body is it supposed to go? - my best guess from whats there is it goes to about 2inches up past the bottom of the doors.

Any help from the purests would be really appreciated. I've tried searching for similar topics, but have come up empty.

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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 07:19 AM
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Very interested in this also.
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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 10:20 AM
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Like to know about this as well.

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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 10:43 AM
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Wondering as well if those who have repainted their cars stripped it off or left it on, etc.
It looks to me as though they masked a line across and shot the undercoating oem stone guard up to further protect the sills. Or has anyone replicated the look using Wurth SKS stone guard? How was it applied to get the same texture? Schutz gun? Also, do all the 928 models have the strip or just ob/sobs?
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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 02:11 PM
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PET has it as a decal....however you can buy spray on rock guard from 3m that does a great job. Just tape off and spray. Tis is to be painted OVER....not applied after paint.

http://3mcollision.com/3m-rocker-pan...ing-08889.html

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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 04:36 PM
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Is the decal color matched, or do you spray over it? And is it still available?
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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Dean_Fuller
PET has it as a decal....however you can buy spray on rock guard from 3m that does a great job. Just tape off and spray.

http://3mcollision.com/3m-rocker-pan...ing-08889.html
Ah, "decal"- that's why I missed it- thanks Dean!
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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 07:28 PM
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I saw a documentary about one of the Porsche factories and showed the stoneguard being sprayed on. It was explained as liquefied PVC.
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if you do go the 3M spray on stone guard ,
get the medium texture,
Clean the surface as directed then,
use 2 or 3 coats,
if done correctly you will use about 1 and 1/3 cans for the whole job
your auto body supply has it.
NOTE I suggest to use the 3M spray as its the best.
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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 08:12 PM
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The flying stone protection and underbody coating has part numbers 999.901.011.40 for gray color and 999.901.012.40 for white (from the WSM supplement titled "Repairing Damaged Paint Finish on Cars") I believe this was originally a water-based Glasurit product called "Glassohyd 1109 (from PET Section "004:Lacquers" page 1) now just called "Glasurit 1109 rock fall protection". It is still listed on their German website. As best I can tell from the Glassurit product sheet it is used full strength for under-body protection and thinned with water to 20 seconds through a DIN 4 viscosity cup for stone guard use. It seems to be still available through Porsche for between $30 and $40/liter. Once applied and dry it can be painted over.

Hope this helps.

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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 07:33 AM
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Thanks to all for this info. Sound like my painter should know about this, might need to rethink who i use.
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Thanks, gentlemen.
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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 08:31 AM
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Excellent, many thanks!

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I would recommend not using the transtar product. I just did this job and applied the transtar chip guard 1 month after spraying clearcoat and I still got some lifting of the clear. Also, the texture wasn't very accurate.
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