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Hi! I am new here, still don't have my own 928, but I am thinking about one 
I know a guy who has 928 1979 for sale with broken engine (4.7L) and I found another wrecked 928 1986 in breakers yard in nearby city with engine. They don't even know what exactly engine it is (they said -" some big, V-type engine" ) Is it possible to fit 1986 engine inside 1979 car? If yes, do I need something else apart from engine from that 1986 wreck?
I know a guy who has 928 1979 for sale with broken engine (4.7L) and I found another wrecked 928 1986 in breakers yard in nearby city with engine. They don't even know what exactly engine it is (they said -" some big, V-type engine"
) Is it possible to fit 1986 engine inside 1979 car? If yes, do I need something else apart from engine from that 1986 wreck?
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The engine will fit under the hood but making it run requires many many parts and lot of hours. Years ago a shop in California known for 911 racing charged about $10,000 to install a 32 valve engine into an early car and the guy already had the engine !!!!
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Thanks everyone, now I see that it was bad idea. They asked for engine about 1000$ and for car with broken engine (needs new paint) ~ 5000$. So total - 6k + lots of parts, time and unknown amount of money. But for sure I could make then coffee table from broken engine as Jeremy Clarkson did.
Then there is black 4S '88 for about 17 000$ in almost perfect stock condition for '88... But it's 17 000$... What do you think - is it worth that?
Then there is black 4S '88 for about 17 000$ in almost perfect stock condition for '88... But it's 17 000$... What do you think - is it worth that?
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If it is still for sale then probably not.....otherwise someone would have bought it Any 928 you buy is going to need quite a bit of love and care. If you have to pay someone because it is your daily driver or you lack a work space or have no experience working on cars it still is a rather expensive car to own...
Many of us use it as a hobby either love fixing it or in my case driving it on track so it need not make sense or dollars ! You do it because it makes you smile knowing full well it is NOT rational or logical in most cases to own a 928.
Any 928 you buy is going to need quite a bit of love and care. If you have to pay someone because it is your daily driver or you lack a work space or have no experience working on cars it still is a rather expensive car to own...Many of us use it as a hobby either love fixing it or in my case driving it on track so it need not make sense or dollars ! You do it because it makes you smile knowing full well it is NOT rational or logical in most cases to own a 928.
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I was looking at 928 as cheapest way to get 300+ hp (super)car with big potential to tuning it to 500+ hp. Or I am not right? Are there some other alternatives to get same power output for the same money?
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The '79 only had 200hp, long way from 300. Unless you can find a European import S or an S4-up, it will not have 300hp. However the 85-86 32Vs (North American model) vas just a little shy of 300, had 288. They are easier to find than the Euros and usually cost less than the S4s. Unless you are planning to boost it, spary it or increase the displacement to somewhere around 6.5L, you will not break the 400 barrier.
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The '79 only had 200hp, long way from 300. Unless you can find a European import S or an S4-up, it will not have 300hp. However the 85-86 32Vs (North American model) vas just a little shy of 300, had 288. They are easier to find than the Euros and usually cost less than the S4s. Unless you are planning to boost it, spary it or increase the displacement to somewhere around 6.5L, you will not break the 400 barrier.
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Just to be complete... Since you are from Europe
If that wrecked 86 is an S2, it is the 4.7L 16 valve engine.. and then the engine swap is a lot less complicating.. you can make it run super smooth using the K-jet injection from a pre-84 S-model. So no need for computers, wiring harnesses etc.
If the rest of that 79 is in very good condition, it might still be worth considering. And with this setup it should output exactly 300hp.
Be sure to drive a similar car though before pursuing this. When I drove one with the old 3-speed auto transmission, I was terribly disappointed.
If that wrecked 86 is an S2, it is the 4.7L 16 valve engine.. and then the engine swap is a lot less complicating.. you can make it run super smooth using the K-jet injection from a pre-84 S-model. So no need for computers, wiring harnesses etc.
If the rest of that 79 is in very good condition, it might still be worth considering. And with this setup it should output exactly 300hp.
Be sure to drive a similar car though before pursuing this. When I drove one with the old 3-speed auto transmission, I was terribly disappointed.
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Just to be complete... Since you are from Europe
If that wrecked 86 is an S2, it is the 4.7L 16 valve engine.. and then the engine swap is a lot less complicating.. you can make it run super smooth using the K-jet injection from a pre-84 S-model. So no need for computers, wiring harnesses etc.
If the rest of that 79 is in very good condition, it might still be worth considering. And with this setup it should output exactly 300hp.
Be sure to drive a similar car though before pursuing this. When I drove one with the old 3-speed auto transmission, I was terribly disappointed.
If that wrecked 86 is an S2, it is the 4.7L 16 valve engine.. and then the engine swap is a lot less complicating.. you can make it run super smooth using the K-jet injection from a pre-84 S-model. So no need for computers, wiring harnesses etc.
If the rest of that 79 is in very good condition, it might still be worth considering. And with this setup it should output exactly 300hp.
Be sure to drive a similar car though before pursuing this. When I drove one with the old 3-speed auto transmission, I was terribly disappointed.
http://autogarant.lv/image/cache/dat...00-500x500.jpg
This is the picture of wrecked car:
http://autogarant.lv/image/cache/dat...00-500x500.jpg
Any idea if it is S2 with 16 valve engine?
79 car should be in good condition - it was built as project car before owner moved to another country, and now he has other interests and priorities.
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It is definitely a pre-facelift car and an S, so in all likelyhood it is an S2. But the only way to know for sure is to see the engine.
It will look like the other one but the dead give-away are the double ignition distributors.
You mentioned the 79 having a 4.7l, you need to be certain of this so check the engine code, right beside the thermostat housing. If it is a 4.5, what I suspect, you will need a different K-jet
It will look like the other one but the dead give-away are the double ignition distributors.
You mentioned the 79 having a 4.7l, you need to be certain of this so check the engine code, right beside the thermostat housing. If it is a 4.5, what I suspect, you will need a different K-jet
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Looks promising. I need to check if that 79 is still for sale (but who will buy a car without engine). Thanks everyone!
What about that K-jet - is it hard to find? How much does it cost (aprox)? Can I use the one from 86 car?
What about that K-jet - is it hard to find? How much does it cost (aprox)? Can I use the one from 86 car?