Dash... I know, I know...
07-18-2003 | 02:49 PM
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Dash... I know, I know...
Hello 
I am now slowly starting to look for things to improve on my '90 S4. One of the most obvious ones (since I am looking at it all the while I am in the car) is dash board - it's cracked in quite a few places.
This is an airbag-equipped car and I haven't seen too many replacement dashes for those (plus it's supposed to be a rather involved installation
). So, what are my options?
thank you
I am now slowly starting to look for things to improve on my '90 S4. One of the most obvious ones (since I am looking at it all the while I am in the car) is dash board - it's cracked in quite a few places.
This is an airbag-equipped car and I haven't seen too many replacement dashes for those (plus it's supposed to be a rather involved installation
). So, what are my options? thank you
07-18-2003 | 06:29 PM
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This may be the same guy Ernest was referring to, but if your pod is cracked, a guy named Dan Brindle in N California can fix those nicely.
His web site is:
http://www.kondratyev.com/porsche/
His web site is:
http://www.kondratyev.com/porsche/
07-18-2003 | 07:10 PM
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Ernest,
I could not find those posts
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Marc,
I actually know Dan (did not know that he was the dash man though
) - just sent him a mail. Let's see what he thinks.
Thank you both
I could not find those posts
________________________________
Marc,
I actually know Dan (did not know that he was the dash man though
) - just sent him a mail. Let's see what he thinks.Thank you both
07-19-2003 | 08:50 AM
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Hi Shmurzik,
I’ll recycle some of my old notes for ya’. If I repaired a dash crack that has come back again, I would probably try the Leatherique crack filler now. Please call them first if your dash is vinyl. It might work for that and leather. Please let us know how it goes. See: http://leatherique.com/prod05.htm
Latest Effort of Rennlister with uncertain results to date:
http://forums.rennlist.com/cgi-bin/r...4;t=005586;p=3
last updated 4/9/2003
Thom’s Dash Repair:
It is nearly impossible to cover cracks without having them to return later. Dan the Pod Guy does it by, I think, filling deep into the good foam, and building up. I have achieved some good results, and some cracks have returned. The cracks that come back happen when I sand the filler back flush to the dash surface. I have not cut down into the good foam. I have just spread the filler down into the cracks like peanut butter. Then grind or sand with a Dremmel tool to match the original contours.
Good preparation is essential. Amorall or other silicon based products will really inhibit adhesion to vinyl or the foam beneath. Wash with dishwashing detergent. Rinse thoroughly. Clean with Marhyde or SEM Total Prep or Vinyl Prep. Rinse thoroughly. To tack up the surface, you can wipe with lacquer thinner. Quickly rinse thoroughly. It may be possible to substitute lacquer thinner for Prep product.
Next I use 3M P.R.O. Fill E-X Sand filler material for flexible plastic repair. It is a 2 part system available from body shop supply shops. But, the light applications in very fine cracks have cracked again. The repairs between the vents where the cracks were wider, and I left more material have lasted. Some cracks that I filled inside a curve, and left extra material over the top have lasted. A Dremmel tool makes contouring easy.
I use a standard color PPG vinyl paint. It may be tough to match your original color. The PPG vendor tried unsuccessfully to match my original color. I have had success matching exterior paint when a Dupont Rep. comes to the body shop with his photographic matching system. Some alternative like Leatherique might work for matching, and/or filler.
Here are some alternatives. See quotes from other 928 owners, and some of my embedded notes below.:
Check out the Leatherique site:
http://leatherique.com/dyeinst.htm
They make a product which can fill the crack(s), be sanded, and then dyed to match. I've seen photos of several repairs and they are remarkable. I'll be performing the same process in the coming months.
I also have been wanting to replace my dash even though the cracks are small. In my lighthearted attempt to fix them I have used some material from www.leatherique.com. They also supplied me with black die that matched. It looks much better but is still noticeable. Also, it is almost impossible to find a used one without cracks.
Just Dashes' website is at http://www.justdashes.com/. They can redo all of the vinyl pieces professionally. But it will cost. They gave me prices for dash refurb in 2002. They strip dashes down, rebuild foam, and replace vinyl. They said that it would cost $400 for the pod, $600 for the dash, $50 for color match, ~$60 shipping to NC. Allow 6-8 weeks.
Dan the Pod Guy $145 to recondition
http://www.kondratyev.com/porsche/pods.htm
HTH,
I’ll recycle some of my old notes for ya’. If I repaired a dash crack that has come back again, I would probably try the Leatherique crack filler now. Please call them first if your dash is vinyl. It might work for that and leather. Please let us know how it goes. See: http://leatherique.com/prod05.htm
Latest Effort of Rennlister with uncertain results to date:
http://forums.rennlist.com/cgi-bin/r...4;t=005586;p=3
last updated 4/9/2003
Thom’s Dash Repair:
It is nearly impossible to cover cracks without having them to return later. Dan the Pod Guy does it by, I think, filling deep into the good foam, and building up. I have achieved some good results, and some cracks have returned. The cracks that come back happen when I sand the filler back flush to the dash surface. I have not cut down into the good foam. I have just spread the filler down into the cracks like peanut butter. Then grind or sand with a Dremmel tool to match the original contours.
Good preparation is essential. Amorall or other silicon based products will really inhibit adhesion to vinyl or the foam beneath. Wash with dishwashing detergent. Rinse thoroughly. Clean with Marhyde or SEM Total Prep or Vinyl Prep. Rinse thoroughly. To tack up the surface, you can wipe with lacquer thinner. Quickly rinse thoroughly. It may be possible to substitute lacquer thinner for Prep product.
Next I use 3M P.R.O. Fill E-X Sand filler material for flexible plastic repair. It is a 2 part system available from body shop supply shops. But, the light applications in very fine cracks have cracked again. The repairs between the vents where the cracks were wider, and I left more material have lasted. Some cracks that I filled inside a curve, and left extra material over the top have lasted. A Dremmel tool makes contouring easy.
I use a standard color PPG vinyl paint. It may be tough to match your original color. The PPG vendor tried unsuccessfully to match my original color. I have had success matching exterior paint when a Dupont Rep. comes to the body shop with his photographic matching system. Some alternative like Leatherique might work for matching, and/or filler.
Here are some alternatives. See quotes from other 928 owners, and some of my embedded notes below.:
Check out the Leatherique site:
http://leatherique.com/dyeinst.htm
They make a product which can fill the crack(s), be sanded, and then dyed to match. I've seen photos of several repairs and they are remarkable. I'll be performing the same process in the coming months.
I also have been wanting to replace my dash even though the cracks are small. In my lighthearted attempt to fix them I have used some material from www.leatherique.com. They also supplied me with black die that matched. It looks much better but is still noticeable. Also, it is almost impossible to find a used one without cracks.
Just Dashes' website is at http://www.justdashes.com/. They can redo all of the vinyl pieces professionally. But it will cost. They gave me prices for dash refurb in 2002. They strip dashes down, rebuild foam, and replace vinyl. They said that it would cost $400 for the pod, $600 for the dash, $50 for color match, ~$60 shipping to NC. Allow 6-8 weeks.
Dan the Pod Guy $145 to recondition
http://www.kondratyev.com/porsche/pods.htm
HTH,
