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Old 10-20-2013, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Bertrand Daoust
Cooling flaps in front of radiator eliminated.
That was my guess too. But it appears the harness side of the wiring might at least still be there.

At any rate, a pretty car. Needs the Rob Edwards engine reconditioning treatment but otherwise looks good via small grainy Craigslist photos...
Old 10-20-2013, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Nicole
No, on the US models, airbags started in 1990. The mat in the hatch is aftermarket Lloyd.

What's the interior color of your Amazon Green 1991 model?
I believe it's "Classic Grey" Nicole, but not certain given that interiors arenot as easily identified as exterior colour. Light grey anyway
Old 10-20-2013, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by worf928
There is something present in the pictures that would not be on a '91 that indicates the presence of a system that no one in their right mind would retro-fit to a '91
Cooling flaps, the **** for manually adjusting the flaps is not there, although the harness is there.
Old 10-20-2013, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Nicole
Not sure what you mean by LH Cover Button
The carpet piece which covers the LH is fastened with a plastic **** instead of a leather strap with a snap button as in earlier models.
Old 10-20-2013, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Leon Speed
Cooling flaps... the harness is there.
That's what I was thinking. The harness is definitely '90.
Old 10-20-2013, 09:52 PM
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Deleted cooling flaps would be a sign of 1991, but the updated door seals are not.

Early 928s like mine have been built at the end of the 1990 model year (before Porsche's summer break), and my car lacked a few 1991 typical features that I retrofitted. For example, mine came with the old style door seals, and the fillers in the A-Piller were foam instead of the later 1991 rubber style.

Now that I understand what Aryan said about the LH Cover Button - yes, I believe they updated the cover for 1991 with a plastic screw.

But the most obvious to me is the interior color - there were no 1990 models with classic grey interior! And classic grey was the only lighter grey color for vinyl dashes - the older gregreen that was phased out in 89 is much darker and was never available with airbags.

So, it could be an early 1991 that still has a 1990 harness including for the cooling flaps. I honestly don't know where to look for these wires, and how to tell, so this is something I did not look at. I'd be curious to learn more about this aspect, and check my car (VIN 0102) against it.
Old 10-20-2013, 09:56 PM
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My 1990 has the plastic screw for the LH/EZK cover.

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Old 10-20-2013, 10:34 PM
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I mentioned grey interior in post # 4.
My 90 also has the screw in LH/EZK cover.
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Originally Posted by Nicole
I honestly don't know where to look for these wires, and how to tell, so this is something I did not look at. I'd be curious to learn more about this aspect, and check my car (VIN 0102) against it.
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Old 10-21-2013, 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by worf928
Picture == 1000 words
Hmmm... I don't think mine has this. I'll look at another early 91 in two weeks, and will keep an eye on this.
Old 10-21-2013, 03:48 AM
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The 91 S4 and GT have the same mounting points for rear wheel well liners that the GTS has. The 90 cars do not.
Old 10-21-2013, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Nicole
Now that I understand what Aryan said about the LH Cover Button - yes, I believe they updated the cover for 1991 with a plastic screw.
Originally Posted by ammonman
My 1990 has the plastic screw for the LH/EZK cover.

Mike
Originally Posted by Bilal928S4
I mentioned grey interior in post # 4.
My 90 also has the screw in LH/EZK cover.


MY 90GT has the screw as well
Old 10-21-2013, 07:52 AM
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OK, now we know that was changed for the 1990 model year. There is always something new...
Old 10-21-2013, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Jerry Feather
The 91 S4 and GT have the same mounting points for rear wheel well liners that the GTS has. The 90 cars do not.
True. And that's because the 90 cars didn't have the updated liners. The 91 was the first model that had them as part of the improved sound insulation. The gain was supposed to be -3 dB.
Old 10-21-2013, 04:08 PM
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Nicole:
Can the analog clock still be sourced? I just hate that digital clock!

Bob


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