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Old 08-17-2013, 10:20 AM
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Going to try and sort out a battery drain so fuses and relays will have to be removed. Is there any trick on removing the relays - can't seem to get them out
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I'm sure there's a better tool but I use a paint can opener and a right angle screwdriver.

Be sure to disconnect battery first.

And use care not to pry the cover off the relay, unless that's your intention.

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I find these work pretty well

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How about this one.

Amazon.com: Lisle 46950 Relay Puller Pliers: Automotive Amazon.com: Lisle 46950 Relay Puller Pliers: Automotive
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Depami, I was going to connect a multi meter between the battery negative and the negative terminal and start pulling fuses & relays until I find out which one causes the amps to drop. Is this not the way to go or can I cause damage if I pull the relays with the battery connected this way?
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What you say can be done but be extremely careful as it is quite easy to short something when working on the CE.

If you use the tools I pictured to remove relays there is a very high probability of shorting something which is why I said to disconnect the battery.
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Using metal tools on relays with power is a bad idea.... :-)
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If you are going to buy a relay puller, I recommend this one because it grabs around the back side of the relay:

Amazon.com: Lisle 46950 Relay Puller Pliers: Automotive Amazon.com: Lisle 46950 Relay Puller Pliers: Automotive

The one that clamps on the corners can distort housing and some old sticking relay have been known to pull apart if you don't get pressure on the backside.

As others have mentioned, for sure you want you ground strap removed when pulling.
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Originally Posted by auzivision
If you are going to buy a relay puller, I recommend this one because it grabs around the back side of the relay:

Amazon.com: Lisle 46950 Relay Puller Pliers: Automotive

The one that clamps on the corners can distort housing and some old sticking relay have been known to pull apart if you don't get pressure on the backside.

As others have mentioned, for sure you want you ground strap removed when pulling.
I have these - they work well on the short can relays ('53 etc) - but not on the long ones. Either way - don't use metal tools that go under relay bases with the battery still connected.

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Originally Posted by Alan
I have these - they work well on the shart can relays - but not on the long ones. Either way - don't use metal tools that go under relay bases with the battery still connected.

Alan

Alan, what do you use on the long ones? Even with battery disconnected, I really don't like using what I pictured.
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I also have these - big enough to get a good grip and supports the sides of the relay so won't crush a can out of shape.(note - as long as he can isn't an oversize one...) Works OK on plastic can relays - but if the relay can is not well attached to the base it can rip the can off... Usually more of an issue on cans that have been previously removed.

You can use this style with the power on for plastic cans - I'd not use it that way with metal cans - in case the can comes loose. BTW these tools are quite hard to find.

The good quality ones are textured on the inside faces. There is also a parallel action version of this - fits all sized cans - expensive and bulky - so more difficult to use in tight quarters.

None of these plier styles are much good on the double sized cans - relay base lever mode types work best there - the removal forces are too high to pull on the cans

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Originally Posted by gamut200
Depami, I was going to connect a multi meter between the battery negative and the negative terminal and start pulling fuses & relays until I find out which one causes the amps to drop. Is this not the way to go or can I cause damage if I pull the relays with the battery connected this way?
If you're going to pull the ground cable off the negative post (or the wingnut end) it's very easy to disconnect, measure, pull relay or fuse and measure again and repeat this process. If you have a helper it's almost as fast as leaving it connected.

Same if you have some long, low resistance jumpers. Like jumper cables for instance.



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