'84 US head gasket failure...suggestions?
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This was actually my original plan...I was just wondering if shaving the heads was something I should avoid if possible. I'm inclined to just have them skimmed while they're out for my own peace of mind.
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Hey Simon
Best of luck with this, hope it all goes really well. Would be happy to come pass ya some tools but just don't have time right at the moment. If things change, i'll let ya know, if nothing else i can follow directions :-)
Cheers,
Best of luck with this, hope it all goes really well. Would be happy to come pass ya some tools but just don't have time right at the moment. If things change, i'll let ya know, if nothing else i can follow directions :-)
Cheers,
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Great advice everyone, thanks!
What do you all think about machining the heads? Is that something that I should definitely do since they are out of the car or should I not bother if it isn't absolutely necessary? And should I worry about inspecting the rods/valves etc.? To be honest I wouldn't really know what good or bad looks like when it comes to those things.
What do you all think about machining the heads? Is that something that I should definitely do since they are out of the car or should I not bother if it isn't absolutely necessary? And should I worry about inspecting the rods/valves etc.? To be honest I wouldn't really know what good or bad looks like when it comes to those things.
The engine has roughly 120000 miles on it. Is hydrolock when you try starting the car but the ignition just cuts completely because the cylinder is full of water? If so, then yeah, that happened a few times before I realized what was happening. No poor running issues once it got started up and ran for a few miles though (after it finished burning off the coolant, of course. )
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Don't machine them unless they need it. You should invest in a sharpening stone ($10 at canadian tire) and then clean the surfaces of the heads. You can then take them to a engine re-builder and they can check it for straightness. Use WD40 while making circular motions with light pressure on the stone. If the heads are straight then just get new head gaskets and put then back in. Changing the valve stem seals is a good idea but requires the disassemblely of the head. You can borrow my spring compressor to do the job.
Hydro lock is when there is more fluid in the cylinder than space at top dead center. The engine stops rotation dead and can bend conrods. You didn't have hydro lock.
Hydro lock is when there is more fluid in the cylinder than space at top dead center. The engine stops rotation dead and can bend conrods. You didn't have hydro lock.
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Thanks Adrian! You're always welcome at my place, and doing work is never a prerequisite! Opening up the engine is really quite interesting, so if you do want to take a look you should drop by. Hopefully the engine won't be open for too much longer.
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I just started cleaning my pistons with some Permatex Gasket Remover (which works wonders by the way), and as I removed a bunch of carbon from cylinder #8 I noticed what you see below. As I was removing the spark plugs I noticed that the spark plug on that same cylinder had no electrode, so I assume that was the cause of this. Is this something that I definitely should replace, or does it not matter too much in the grand scheme of things?
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I would not be so worried. I think it looks worse than any bad effect it will have. It is inside the sealing area and if you dress off the head with a stone, it will look much better. I don't think the damage is great enough to cause cracking, but maybe someone else knows otherwise.
Good luck,
Dave
Good luck,
Dave
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Keep in mind that it has been running with it like that for a while. It does go to show that you should check your plugs once in a while. The coils on these cars are so strong that they will fire through almost anything. Spark plugs aren't forever.
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That's a relief...thanks guys. I bought new plugs awhile ago, but I never got around to installing them. Now I know better to procrastinate. It never occurred to me that this could happen. I bought the sharpening stone yesterday so I'll put it to good use on these divots.
It looks like I'll also be spending most of my time this weekend cleaning off the cam tower gaskets. Holy crap, that's a time consuming, pain in the *** job. Those things seem fused to the metal. I got a pair of Greg's gaskets for replacement, so hopefully they stop the leaks.
It looks like I'll also be spending most of my time this weekend cleaning off the cam tower gaskets. Holy crap, that's a time consuming, pain in the *** job. Those things seem fused to the metal. I got a pair of Greg's gaskets for replacement, so hopefully they stop the leaks.
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Making some progress this weekend. I'm jumping around between different things that I need to do on the engine, and one of the things I just did is remove the oil pan. I understand that when there is coolant in the oil it can lead to rod bearing damage. I carefully checked the oil pan for metal shavings and I didn't find any. I even drained the remaining oil into a funnel with a filter and went over the filter with a magnet--no evidence of any metal. Ran my finger throughout the oil pan and no evidence of shavings there either.
Here are some pics of the interior of the engine...any red flags?
Here are some pics of the interior of the engine...any red flags?
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What exactly do these connectors do? This is beside the oil filter and looking from underneath, btw. The red wire was off completely and the ground wire was barely holding on. Do these look broken to you or do they look okay? What negative effects are there when it isn't hooked up properly? I have a feeling it hasn't been right for awhile.
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Originally Posted by BRB-83-911SC:10729406
That looks like the oil pressure sending unit, feeds the oil pressure gauge. Did your OP gauge work?