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Old 06-30-2013, 02:08 AM
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the hood louvers are interesting, but what are your thoughts on a cowl induction type hood scoop, direct to the top of the filter box? but a shaker type, through the hood.
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Originally Posted by OTR18WHEELER View Post
the hood louvers are interesting, but what are your thoughts on a cowl induction type hood scoop, direct to the top of the filter box? but a shaker type, through the hood.
I think the stock cold air intake design is a very good one because pressure must build in that area at speed and deliver a natural charge of fresh air.

So I am sticking with the factory design. Your 928 in the window reflection looks really nice btw..

I will start with the hood louver install, will soda blast the hood, braze the hood emblem holes closed and repaint in single stage white enamel.

Thinking hood and hatch should use pins as the Daytona lightweight did on the hood, so that decision must be made first. Pins would solve the hatch lid key being in the way of the clean ducktail spoiler. Pins would work better that rubber straps for the 928 imo hatch is too big for rubber straps..

This project will be a push to get going along with work (just got back from project house shift; 12midnight to 4:30am) and entertaining the kids all Summer, I will do my best with it to get some cool stuff done. Drinking gallons of Mountain Dew, to hang with the family all day and get stuff done late at night. Going to Jersey Shore, will tune in when i get the louvers and post some pics of em. Have a good week everyone.
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Old 06-30-2013, 10:11 AM
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First - nice sketching

Now why all this difficult, possibly expensive cosmetic work that will make the car un-sellable instead of performance improvements? I could see making an RS look if you had done some major improvements, suspension, brakes, stroker,............


There is a pic of a meteor metallic S4 with hood louvers that resemble the V12V's louvers.

Check out "fat bully" for more bodywork and greg's gills

The best RS look is the "Orange" one in Germany and the "grey and orange" one in the US
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:13 PM
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First - nice sketching

Now why all this difficult, possibly expensive cosmetic work that will make the car un-sellable instead of performance improvements? I could see making an RS look if you had done some major improvements, suspension, brakes, stroker,............


There is a pic of a meteor metallic S4 with hood louvers that resemble the V12V's louvers.

Check out "fat bully" for more bodywork and greg's gills

The best RS look is the "Orange" one in Germany and the "grey and orange" one in the US
Will check them out thanks,
Regarding cosmetic changes;
Did the same to my '86 Carrera but IROC not RS clone, which I recently sold for better than I could have otherwise I think. But that is a 911.

IROC series had NASCAR drivers driving them, Porsche made little brass plaques that read: "Depress Clutch Fully Between Shifts" because those guys weren't accustomed to the 911 box. I thought be cool to add this. It's all just car art for art's sake, no rational reason for any of it.

I don't care about selling this car and wouldn't anyway. Will and have been making mechanical improvements, no interest in messing with bottom end though it has low miles and run beautifully. Will eventually have euro spec cams, better exhaust, improving air in and air out of motor and 3-400 lbs. lighter.

When i lightened the Carrera 300 lbs. it was the best tune up the car ever had, tuned the suspension too as I like to tell Porsche owners

My 1983S has a very nice navy blue interior which is why i feel white will be best. White is very inexpensive, $50 for 3/4 Gal in single stage Acrylic Urethane Enamel, doing the painting myself as i always do.

I agree like orange but like the early '70s green better, if only i had a black interior (too expensive to replace),

but white is fine and easy color to paint too. Thanks,
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:15 PM
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This looks fantastic
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Originally Posted by 69gaugeman View Post
Natural for us teeners (914),as this was how they have it.
901 trans same as early 911. 915 trans replaced to handle added torque lost dog-leg.
Love 914s would buy one if i had the extra room under roof.

I know of a survivor near me here in PA:http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/3855772415.html
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Very cool sketch and concept!
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Old 07-06-2013, 11:21 PM
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Thanks Jim, your input is appreciated.

Just came home from Avalon (Shore) going back in a few days. But I had early morning time to sketch and study RS and RSR details. Exhausted from chasing kids.

At the front door was the packages of product bought before i left whicg i will share with photos once i get the hang of the new camera. (Old Guy)

New Binks HVLP spray gun, ($200) I never use expensive guns.

Pure White single stage enamel, Etching and Build Primer and Catalysts,

(3) 6 sq.ft. (18 sq.ft. total) Navy Blue Leather Hides from Italy (very reasonable), This is for the lightweight door cards and other interior details..will share info as work is being done. a bit much to get into.

RSR mirrors came as well. see product sheet. Great price.
These will need custom aluminum supports made. Design evolving, I may stand them off a inch, may be flush will have to test..

More Balsa for the wing design, starting with the Factory Rubber Wing profile (which i removed from my '83S) and raising the height slightly (1.25" approx. no need for 911 RSR hieght as the 928 rear is much higher already) and streamlining the shapes a bit.

Had to laminate three pieces of 36"x 2"x5" Balsa. Will show pics later..They are interesting.

No laser cut aluminum hood vents to show you yet. Still waiting.

Still thinking about Gulf Blue but decided to go with the white which as i said above i already bought..Will look great with a navy blue interior (Kirker Brand paint BTW, it's Good stuff and very reasonable $ because it is mixed in large quantities in advance. ($50 buck, 3/4 Gal) will share how to with pics as work is done.
http://www.kirkerautomotive.com/

Taking off hatch in the next few days while home, lightening it by drilling where it will not compromise the structure (I hope) and routering lexan to replace glass, I will try and heat the lexan (have an idea how) to keep it's curved installed shape and not require a center support. Will weight before and after.

I want this to feel like Porsche could have built it, not going for a track car feel. I am very excited about this and think i can get it lighter than 2900 lbs as i am already at 3100 with stock power seats and interior.

Will post pics when i have something interesting to show.

These Design sketches are for process/documentation and thinking through ideas, a lot has already evolved or changed but i thought i'd post them anyway.

Have a great Independence Day Holiday everyone.
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Old 07-06-2013, 11:39 PM
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You can save yourself a little work, the 83 has electric locks.
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Old 07-07-2013, 12:00 AM
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Yes, you're right they're very noisy electrics and definitely no vac line into doors, excuse the mistake. Remove Central Locking.
Not sure why i wrote that. Got up too early i guess.

Since I'm here, bought a better soda blaster to remove the paint and waiting for it to get here.
I repainted my car not too long ago and would never be doing this if it had original paint. The fender was damaged right after completion so i am glad to start over.

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Old 07-07-2013, 08:08 AM
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Enjoying this thread: your sketches and the overall direction.
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Old 07-08-2013, 08:47 PM
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Had 1.5 hours to get something accomplished in garage.

Think I'm going with Gulf Blue not GP White.

Pic of navy hides,

Simplified wiring in hatch ( only hatch lighting) then removed it.
Drilled hatch for lightness, 'hatched' areas in pic under ducktail will be cut away as well, pulling out hatch glass tomorrow.

Roughed out the ducktail again.

Received the hood vents, they will be brazed in place (slightly recessed) and painted body color. Mesh should be placed behind them to prevent large debris from going into engine bay.
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Old 07-09-2013, 12:02 AM
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Tristan put an Audi TT wing on the back of his OB it looks very similar to your design.

You may wanna avoid re-inventing the wheel.

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Originally Posted by michaelathome View Post
Tristan put an Audi TT wing on the back of his OB it looks very similar to your design.

You may wanna avoid re-inventing the wheel.

Michael

I'm very familiar with the Audi TT wings, hate the car btw drove one for several months,

many TT wings r available on ebay cheap.

No offense, but I'd never put an Audi TT wing on my Porsche RS creation, that would be cheating in my mind. I enjoy this.

This (what i'm making) will look like a 'ducktail' spoiler, look above at the RS and RSR 911s, they look very different from any TT wing available that i have seen.

My ducktail will not have a seam, will be unique and a bit lighter.

Pics are of rough cut material Michael, they represents about 20 minutes of effort.

There is the work of dishing it out and shaping it, then using it as a mold. I'll have no trouble pulling it off quickly, not my first auto restoration.

Regards,

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I applaud your energy and concept.
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