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Old 05-29-2013, 01:28 PM
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Now that my paint is pretty much squared away, it's time to consider and plan for the wheels. I would like my phone dials to look like they did from the factory. What is required to do this? Is it necessary to take the tires off (I assume so)? I just found out that my brother bought a sand blasting unit, although I am unsure of the size.

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I would strip them, not blast them (or heat bake off the orig. paint)

Silbermetallic #936, followed by a clearcoat. If you were pleased w/your full repaint, your body guy will be able to hadle this for you.
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Is the paint you are referring to the same as the paint on the car?
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Originally Posted by bronto
Is the paint you are referring to the same as the paint on the car?
Matter of fact, it is.
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Matter of fact, it is.
This is surprising to me. This, I think, is a good representation of what they are supposed to look like:

http://www.wheelenhancement.com/inde...elDetail&id=15

Which isn't a glossy, polished finish. But of course the Silbermetallic is very shiny. Maybe I am just accustomed to seeing deteriorated finishes on them?
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Originally Posted by bronto
This is surprising to me. This, I think, is a good representation of what they are supposed to look like:

http://www.wheelenhancement.com/inde...elDetail&id=15

Which isn't a glossy, polished finish. But of course the Silbermetallic is very shiny. Maybe I am just accustomed to seeing deteriorated finishes on them?
I based my info off of Porsche Classic saying they used #936.

Coupled that with some NOS center caps I've collected, which have a clearcoat on them.

Followed that with painting a wheel with #936 and clear, then installing the NOS center cap.

It's a very close match. Not perfect but close.
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I powder coated mine. Not sure of the precise color match, but looks close to me
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I've had three sets of wheels powdercoated, on the whole I'm happy with them but the finish is not a good match to OEM when held next to new factory wheels or center caps that have been in a box for 20 years. I'd defer to Jim's research on this one.
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I wonder how one powder coated gunmetal grey would look on a black car.... Anyone able to do that in photoshop?
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The question on custom colors like gunmetal is getting center caps to color-match. Most you can paint with the wheels, only the metal ones can be PC'd at the same time as the wheels.
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Originally Posted by Jadz928
I based my info off of Porsche Classic saying they used #936.

Coupled that with some NOS center caps I've collected, which have a clearcoat on them.

Followed that with painting a wheel with #936 and clear, then installing the NOS center cap.

It's a very close match. Not perfect but close.
Are we certain that early phone dials were painted? Those on my '78 appear to be annodized silver with no clear coat. I don't know if they are original, but it would be hard to believe that someone would go to the trouble to create this kind of finish if starting out with a painted wheel (much easier just to re-paint, I would think)

Do you have any manufacture dates on your NOS center caps?
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Are we certain that early phone dials were painted? Those on my '78 appear to be annodized silver with no clear coat. I don't know if they are original, but it would be hard to believe that someone would go to the trouble to create this kind of finish if starting out with a painted wheel (much easier just to re-paint, I would think)

Do you have any manufacture dates on your NOS center caps?
Phone dials wheels were factory painted. I can't say 100% of them (because I know of one that's different... the '77 Frankfurt show car), but a vast majority, I'm sure.

It is way more likely that your wheels were anodized at dealer-prep. Very common for a dealer to send out wheels and have them finished to the customer's spec (chrome, polish, anodize, diff. paint color).

My #1 car's wheels are currently painted white. If I assumed they came that way from the factory, being a hand-made press car and all (easy to do)... I would've been wrong.
Instead, I scratched off the white paint in a couple spots and found silver paint (the color which matches ca. 1977 photos)

We've talked about this before on another thread. Consider your current logic, then turn it 180 degrees.
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For those of you who powdercoated, how much did it cost and how long did it take? I am wondering about logistics. What do you do with your car when your wheels are being worked on?



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