Timing Belt & Brake Pads for 1984 928S
#16
Yea I actually have a very greasy underbelly and it could be from my power steering and also from the oil pan, so I'm actually going to start buying that stuff and take a week off work just to work on this baby. I gonna have to do more research on the gears as I was not aware of.
Save your money and don't buy the porkentioner. The factory tensioner is FINE. Despite what the numerous supporters of the audi tensioner say.
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#18
Ok.
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The top 928 engine builder sticks with the factory unit. If our oppinions doesn't mean much to you, his should mean something.
#21
Replace every gear with wear. Lots of advice to contrary, esp about crank gear.
Gaugeman wishes he didn't replace his oil pump one, that was unfortunate.
Some say wait til you smell rubber as belt burns on jammed waterpump before doing maint.
Gaugeman wishes he didn't replace his oil pump one, that was unfortunate.
Some say wait til you smell rubber as belt burns on jammed waterpump before doing maint.
#23
Gregs does matter and he and I have talked about it a lot off line. Yours doesn't because just this week you've been corrected at least twice for bad information.
#24
Originally Posted by whatudrivin:10390344
So sean would you recommend me to buy the PK tensioner?
I'm actually putting a list together and I'm going to email roger so I can buy parts bit bit.
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I would probably do it the other way round – call Roger and tell him what you’re doing and he can walk you through what you might need. E.g., do you have a flywheel lock?, how’s your oil pump seal? since you're draining coolant, how's your thermostat?, etc. FWIW – If you don't know the age, replace the accessory belts since you’re going to be removing them anyway. FWIW(2), go with the Porken tensioner.
Good luck and post pics as you go.
Good luck and post pics as you go.
#27
The 16 valve engines are much less prone to expensive repairs when the belt breaks.
I agree that there is nothing wrong with kens tensioner. In fact I will even go so far to say that it is a better tensioner. BUT.... the stock tensioner is PERFECTLY fine. It meets the requirements for the engine. The added bonus is the warning system has the potential to save you from imminent danger.
#28
You would be totally incorrect, but when bad advice is given I will call someone on that. Not my fault you have a habit of it more than others.
NoVector has the best idea for you below.
Reading is fundamental and as you are a perfect example, not everyone is going to do it the same way (ie your GT engine). Greg won't use it because he has $25,000.00 to $60,000.00 per engine in liability tied up if something fails on his engines. Not the same as the rest of us. There is also the small thing involving egos between Ken and him and I'd be lying if I didn't think that had a huge part in it.
The stock tensioner is PERFECTLY fine if you know what you are doing and I'm willing to bet over 50% of 928 owners don't know how to do that. When there is a better product, that will save money over the long term and function much better, I'm going to say so. The stock tensioner is a 40 year old design, the audi tensioner has been on 10x the vehicles than the crap we keep putting on our cars. Besides, this guys car does not have a tension warning system.
I would probably do it the other way round – call Roger and tell him what you’re doing and he can walk you through what you might need. E.g., do you have a flywheel lock?, how’s your oil pump seal? since you're draining coolant, how's your thermostat?, etc. FWIW – If you don't know the age, replace the accessory belts since you’re going to be removing them anyway. FWIW(2), go with the Porken tensioner.
Good luck and post pics as you go.
Good luck and post pics as you go.
No kidding. If I had left it alone I would be two weeks and a top end rebuild ahead!
The 16 valve engines are much less prone to expensive repairs when the belt breaks.
What does Greg use? What he says doesn't mean ****. What he does, does....
I agree that there is nothing wrong with kens tensioner. In fact I will even go so far to say that it is a better tensioner. BUT.... the stock tensioner is PERFECTLY fine. It meets the requirements for the engine. The added bonus is the warning system has the potential to save you from imminent danger.
The 16 valve engines are much less prone to expensive repairs when the belt breaks.
What does Greg use? What he says doesn't mean ****. What he does, does....
I agree that there is nothing wrong with kens tensioner. In fact I will even go so far to say that it is a better tensioner. BUT.... the stock tensioner is PERFECTLY fine. It meets the requirements for the engine. The added bonus is the warning system has the potential to save you from imminent danger.
The stock tensioner is PERFECTLY fine if you know what you are doing and I'm willing to bet over 50% of 928 owners don't know how to do that. When there is a better product, that will save money over the long term and function much better, I'm going to say so. The stock tensioner is a 40 year old design, the audi tensioner has been on 10x the vehicles than the crap we keep putting on our cars. Besides, this guys car does not have a tension warning system.
#29
Originally Posted by SeanR:10390970
You would be totally incorrect, but when bad advice is given I will call someone on that. Not my fault you have a habit of it more than others.
NoVector has the best idea for you below.
Reading is fundamental and as you are a perfect example, not everyone is going to do it the same way (ie your GT engine). Greg won't use it because he has $25,000.00 to $60,000.00 per engine in liability tied up if something fails on his engines. Not the same as the rest of us. There is also the small thing involving egos between Ken and him and I'd be lying if I didn't think that had a huge part in it.
The stock tensioner is PERFECTLY fine if you know what you are doing and I'm willing to bet over 50% of 928 owners don't know how to do that. When there is a better product, that will save money over the long term and function much better, I'm going to say so. The stock tensioner is a 40 year old design, the audi tensioner has been on 10x the vehicles than the crap we keep putting on our cars. Besides, this guys car does not have a tension warning system.
I would probably do it the other way round – call Roger and tell him what you’re doing and he can walk you through what you might need. E.g., do you have a flywheel lock?, how’s your oil pump seal? since you're draining coolant, how's your thermostat?, etc. FWIW – If you don't know the age, replace the accessory belts since you’re going to be removing them anyway. FWIW(2), go with the Porken tensioner.
Good luck and post pics as you go.
Good luck and post pics as you go.
No kidding. If I had left it alone I would be two weeks and a top end rebuild ahead!
The 16 valve engines are much less prone to expensive repairs when the belt breaks.
What does Greg use? What he says doesn't mean ****. What he does, does....
I agree that there is nothing wrong with kens tensioner. In fact I will even go so far to say that it is a better tensioner. BUT.... the stock tensioner is PERFECTLY fine. It meets the requirements for the engine. The added bonus is the warning system has the potential to save you from imminent danger.
The 16 valve engines are much less prone to expensive repairs when the belt breaks.
What does Greg use? What he says doesn't mean ****. What he does, does....
I agree that there is nothing wrong with kens tensioner. In fact I will even go so far to say that it is a better tensioner. BUT.... the stock tensioner is PERFECTLY fine. It meets the requirements for the engine. The added bonus is the warning system has the potential to save you from imminent danger.
The stock tensioner is PERFECTLY fine if you know what you are doing and I'm willing to bet over 50% of 928 owners don't know how to do that. When there is a better product, that will save money over the long term and function much better, I'm going to say so. The stock tensioner is a 40 year old design, the audi tensioner has been on 10x the vehicles than the crap we keep putting on our cars. Besides, this guys car does not have a tension warning system.
Yea you have a point here, I think ima just go for the PK tensioner, I appreciate everyone's opinion about this things, even though it almost became hostile up in here..lol but its fine,
#30
Sean has a lot of experience and has great advice, as far as I've seen, but it's your car and your choice.
There's a lot of discussion on here (if the search function ever works again) or you can look at PorKen's site. (yes, it's his sale site and it's advertising): http://liftbars.com/
FWIW, I'm almost certainly going to put one in. I'll probably wait until I do the TB/WP, not just put it in as it's own project (which was suggested on here).