928 Year differences
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ironic you mention the 86, a few of these have popped up recently. Here is one that made me go...ok, Im thinking about this!
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/3695130040.html
I just feel it's too cheap, and cheap makes me nervous sometimes. Especially if they JUST put money into it. It's one thing if it's a sick puppy like us (always doing the tinkering) though...
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/3695130040.html
I just feel it's too cheap, and cheap makes me nervous sometimes. Especially if they JUST put money into it. It's one thing if it's a sick puppy like us (always doing the tinkering) though...
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Nothing wrong with 16 valves except power. My '79 was rated at 215hp, although something like 240 torques make it feel like more. There are supercharger kits for all, although consider smog control issues which you probably already know what Oregon's are (I don't). Turbos too, and headers, X pipes, etc. Note that the 928 got heavier almost every year; my own experience is that my '79 is more nimble than the later models I've driven. It just feels lighter, and even with less power I can hold my own on the fun runs with later models.
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ironic you mention the 86, a few of these have popped up recently. Here is one that made me go...ok, Im thinking about this!
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/3695130040.html
I just feel it's too cheap, and cheap makes me nervous sometimes. Especially if they JUST put money into it. It's one thing if it's a sick puppy like us (always doing the tinkering) though...
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/3695130040.html
I just feel it's too cheap, and cheap makes me nervous sometimes. Especially if they JUST put money into it. It's one thing if it's a sick puppy like us (always doing the tinkering) though...
If I had to do it all over again, I would be tempted by an 86.5 over my 79.
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ironic you mention the 86, a few of these have popped up recently. Here is one that made me go...ok, Im thinking about this!
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/3695130040.html
I just feel it's too cheap, and cheap makes me nervous sometimes. Especially if they JUST put money into it. It's one thing if it's a sick puppy like us (always doing the tinkering) though...
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/3695130040.html
I just feel it's too cheap, and cheap makes me nervous sometimes. Especially if they JUST put money into it. It's one thing if it's a sick puppy like us (always doing the tinkering) though...
If you want an educated set of eyes to look at that '86, should hook up with PorKen (post #13) and have him check it out. Ken is very familiar with all 928s, but is exceptional with '85-'86.5 models.
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An interesting read on the evolution of the model.
http://jenniskens.livedsl.nl/Evoluti...%20history.pdf
http://jenniskens.livedsl.nl/Evoluti...%20history.pdf
Just got done with it and I have to say it has quite a bit missing (mentions some relatively minor iteration changes, but never mentions the 86.5 and what that meant).
Also says something about the 928s designation coming back in 1990 I think? Really?
Anyway +1 to the 86.5 being the best combo, 5-speed if you ask me.
Starting with MY 86 VIN ending in 1000+ (86.5) the belly pan, brakes and exhaust was the same as the S4 (dual exhaust) but the rest of the car was pretty much the same as it had been in '85 (32v 288 chp stock). The '87+ keep getting heavier and heavier so you need more HP just to do the same thing.
As far as having to remove the engine to do anything for the later cars, I never heard that. You have to remove the engine for things that require engine removal but I don't think the later S4s, GT or GTS had anything that specifically require engine removal that the earlier ones didn't.
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Yes, a worthy subset to consider if one comes up. Among the Euros, there are the early 4.5L 16v, which, while unique, don't offer much in the way of performance gains over the US spec. However, the Euro S with the 4.7L 16v gives you 300hp with CIS injection (80?-83). 84-86 Euro S 4.7L 16v gives you 310hp with LH-jet injection and shorter gearing.
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We like to call it 'gentrification' of the wilder areas. K plays in a couple amateur tournaments there every year, and found a home she likes. We didn't do a lot for the depressed housing prices, but she plans to have a measurable impact on the outlook for remodeling contractors once she gets the plans firmed up. I can hardly wait...
FWIW, I'm a NY native, she's from Chicago originally. I'm still only three years from being a Cali native, but will be forced to give up all that seniority when we relocate, and start over again. Won't get to 45 years of residency in Oregon, not in my lifetime anyway.
FWIW, I'm a NY native, she's from Chicago originally. I'm still only three years from being a Cali native, but will be forced to give up all that seniority when we relocate, and start over again. Won't get to 45 years of residency in Oregon, not in my lifetime anyway.
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This is all good info. You guys are as sick as some of us in the 944 crowd ! ![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Funny stuff too!
Also, great links!
I did know that the earliest models were non-interference (very cool, less to worry about). I would body kit the crap outta an early one. Are there less sensors and issues with the early models? I would 'assume' they would be.
I did not know about the Euro specs. Very cool as well.
So, I'm in the same boat as far as : sensors (reference, etc), relays, tb's, wp's, clutch stuff. Basically, same shiz as the 944 to maintain/ worry about.
I will send ken a message...
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Funny stuff too!
Also, great links!
I did know that the earliest models were non-interference (very cool, less to worry about). I would body kit the crap outta an early one. Are there less sensors and issues with the early models? I would 'assume' they would be.
I did not know about the Euro specs. Very cool as well.
So, I'm in the same boat as far as : sensors (reference, etc), relays, tb's, wp's, clutch stuff. Basically, same shiz as the 944 to maintain/ worry about.
I will send ken a message...
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There are also changes like two different fuse types used in '78-84 vs '85-95 which make later cars more reliable while they have more electronics.