OCIC in Canada
01-31-2013, 01:47 PM
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Jim, Thats the route I would take. Strait north out of AZ, meeting up with the TX guys around Salt Lake City. I`ve done that route on the motorcycle. Its great.
02-01-2013, 09:09 AM
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Folks.......with the significant response to this thread as well a similar on OC we'll take the next tentative steps.
Thx all for your comments and inputs..........be back with updates asap.
Thx all for your comments and inputs..........be back with updates asap.
04-10-2013, 12:42 PM
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Evidently only 928OC members may now register for these 928 OCIC events, based on the info set forth in the latest issue of TSV. This is new to me. It says the principal person registering for the event must be a member of the 928 OC, altho members of the immediate family can also attend and friends, so long as none of them own a 928, in which case they have to join the club too, in order to register. Anyway, I have asked for clarification of this over on the 928 OC forums. Just wanted to put this note here, in case any non-members were going to go and whether or not this is the new policy of the 928 OC (and the other thread containing discussion for Jerry's event is locked).
04-10-2013, 01:23 PM
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Ed,
You are totally correct - someone screwed up on this.
Roger
You are totally correct - someone screwed up on this.
Roger
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04-10-2013, 09:39 PM
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Ed......thanks for pointing this out.
If the author of the SV article is truly representing the exec of the OC and that these changes to attend an OC event are factual it is news to us who are organising the 2014 gathering in Canada. We have had email conversation with OC exec and understood that new OCIC guidelines would soon be announced but have to yet to recieve the guidelines.
Our event is wide open to all with a successuful presentation to the PCA group in Calgary recently where other Porsche model owners stating they gladly help promote our event
If the author of the SV article is truly representing the exec of the OC and that these changes to attend an OC event are factual it is news to us who are organising the 2014 gathering in Canada. We have had email conversation with OC exec and understood that new OCIC guidelines would soon be announced but have to yet to recieve the guidelines.
Our event is wide open to all with a successuful presentation to the PCA group in Calgary recently where other Porsche model owners stating they gladly help promote our event
04-10-2013, 09:53 PM
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That is INCORRECT! I don't know how many times this has to be stated... The person organizing the event gets to set the standard. I agree we want more 928 owners to become members and the OCIC should be a "club" event and thus those who attend should either join before or join at the event (since it is the club that is sponsoring some or most of the event...depends on which event you look at in the past for that info though. They have all been different. $2800 in 2012 and ultimately none in 2009 for instance.)
I think one of the events had a registration fee that was like $30 more for non-members so paying the $28 and joining got you in the club and a $2 discount. I personally like that kind of incentive. We are in discussions with Jerry now as to how this will work or if we will perhaps force a change of policy on this, so watch for announcements. Again, this is all a work in progress. Your patience is appreciated.
In THIS CASE Jerry has decided he would like only OC members to come to the OCIC event. You can join now or join at any point between now and then and be eligible. The "guidelines" for OCIC's (or any other event) have not been elucidated by the board yet. We have been working on some other tasks and have not got to the initial write up from Gary yet. Coming soon though.
Malcolm you could have people join in advance, have the membership included in the cost of registration, or not have anything dealing with membership at all. At this point it is still open for the organizer to do what they like. We will have some guidelines for you soon though so you will know what the club will expect from any event dubbed OCIC or other "sponsored" events. Malcolm, I also like having the PCA involved in 928OC events personally. I invite the PCA folks to our 2nd Saturday GTG's actually. As a past President of the local PCA region I am very happy to let other Porsche folks experience the thrill and uniqueness of the 928! Many have never seen them close up and know virtually nothing about them. It is so cool to watch them learn and have their eyes opened to just how amazing 928's really are! Keep up the good work M! We (I am speaking for the board here) appreciate your efforts!
If you ask these questions over at the OC Forum you might get a quicker answer btw.
I think one of the events had a registration fee that was like $30 more for non-members so paying the $28 and joining got you in the club and a $2 discount. I personally like that kind of incentive. We are in discussions with Jerry now as to how this will work or if we will perhaps force a change of policy on this, so watch for announcements. Again, this is all a work in progress. Your patience is appreciated.
In THIS CASE Jerry has decided he would like only OC members to come to the OCIC event. You can join now or join at any point between now and then and be eligible. The "guidelines" for OCIC's (or any other event) have not been elucidated by the board yet. We have been working on some other tasks and have not got to the initial write up from Gary yet. Coming soon though.
Malcolm you could have people join in advance, have the membership included in the cost of registration, or not have anything dealing with membership at all. At this point it is still open for the organizer to do what they like. We will have some guidelines for you soon though so you will know what the club will expect from any event dubbed OCIC or other "sponsored" events. Malcolm, I also like having the PCA involved in 928OC events personally. I invite the PCA folks to our 2nd Saturday GTG's actually. As a past President of the local PCA region I am very happy to let other Porsche folks experience the thrill and uniqueness of the 928! Many have never seen them close up and know virtually nothing about them. It is so cool to watch them learn and have their eyes opened to just how amazing 928's really are! Keep up the good work M! We (I am speaking for the board here) appreciate your efforts!
If you ask these questions over at the OC Forum you might get a quicker answer btw.
04-10-2013, 09:56 PM
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Jerry can decide how he wants to organize his events. No issues there, but until the OC actually stands up and defines what an OCIC is it isn't going to go well. Jerry can go fluck himself with his accusations he's leveraged against people. If the OCIC can't police its members better, there is no reason to be a member of the club.
On that note, I'm still all in for the Calgary event.
On that note, I'm still all in for the Calgary event.
04-10-2013, 10:13 PM
#84
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Sean, thanks for bringing that up again, we can always count on you. You are probably looking for the word "leveled" not "leveraged" btw, but that is neither here nor there (or their, or they're??? ;-) Lighten up man, we have been over this about 100 times, I think everyone knows the REAL score on this!
You are quite correct though about Jerry being able to organize his event how he wants, and Malcolm is and Jim and Roger (and I suppose You since you continue to thrust yourself right in the middle of it all the time) did for the 2009 and 2012 events. The OC only provided money for those events, not planning. So the organizers have in fact made all the calls on what would happen and when it would happen. Just like Marc White did in the original 2000 and 2004 OCIC's. He is a track hound so he included track days with each of those events. AWESOME!
There will be guidelines soon though. So by the time Jerry's event happens it will be compliant with those as will the 2014 event, or they won't be OCIC's. It is that simple.
You are quite correct though about Jerry being able to organize his event how he wants, and Malcolm is and Jim and Roger (and I suppose You since you continue to thrust yourself right in the middle of it all the time) did for the 2009 and 2012 events. The OC only provided money for those events, not planning. So the organizers have in fact made all the calls on what would happen and when it would happen. Just like Marc White did in the original 2000 and 2004 OCIC's. He is a track hound so he included track days with each of those events. AWESOME!
There will be guidelines soon though. So by the time Jerry's event happens it will be compliant with those as will the 2014 event, or they won't be OCIC's. It is that simple.
04-10-2013, 10:20 PM
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Anyway, from what I gather, there is no fixed policy yet, but membership will be required to register for Jerry's event, since that is how he set it up.
04-10-2013, 10:23 PM
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James...........appreciate your comments and are eagerly awaiting the guidelines before we decide in our approach wrt our event.
As to the comment re. writing on the OC forum, I responded to a post on my Rennlist thread re an event we are organising. I now read Marks comments on the OC forum.........interesting news
As to the comment re. writing on the OC forum, I responded to a post on my Rennlist thread re an event we are organising. I now read Marks comments on the OC forum.........interesting news
04-10-2013, 10:44 PM
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Oh ...now I remember why I hate joining clubs. It always turns into one big giant cluster****. BTW weres my copy of this OC members newsletter? Happy to take my money !
04-10-2013, 10:46 PM
#88
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Thanks Ed and Malcolm we are working on it. A lot of irons in the fire over on the OC Board right now. We have not had much going on the first part of the year and now all of a sudden we are so busy my email inboxes are ON FIRE! Every time I find a wi-fi hot spot while out working I sign on and have a zillion more board emails to attend to. You will REALLY, REALLY be happy with some of the stuff happening in the background and I promise you we will have some guidelines for you soon Malcolm. Give us 4-6 weeks to lock some of this other stuff down though (I hope less) and get that going though.
This probably should have been done a long time ago, but we are going to do it now, so it just is what it is. There will of course be some level of sponsorship as we do that at minimum for other (non-OCIC) events, but how that will be provided and what it will provide will be the question.
My hope is we will have clear guidelines for an OCIC and it will be handled like the PCA Parades where regions (in our case it would be individuals) make their case for why they should be chosen to host the event. That way the club gets highly motivated sponsors/organizers with very clear plans for what, when, where, how much and how the event will go down. If you have ever been to a Parade you know how crazy those events are! They are super cool and while ours won't be anything like the 500+ car events those guys have, I hope ours will rival them in quality and engagement of members. BTW, you have to be a PCA member (and you have to OWN a Porsche to BE a PCA member) to come to any of the Parade functions.
This probably should have been done a long time ago, but we are going to do it now, so it just is what it is. There will of course be some level of sponsorship as we do that at minimum for other (non-OCIC) events, but how that will be provided and what it will provide will be the question.
My hope is we will have clear guidelines for an OCIC and it will be handled like the PCA Parades where regions (in our case it would be individuals) make their case for why they should be chosen to host the event. That way the club gets highly motivated sponsors/organizers with very clear plans for what, when, where, how much and how the event will go down. If you have ever been to a Parade you know how crazy those events are! They are super cool and while ours won't be anything like the 500+ car events those guys have, I hope ours will rival them in quality and engagement of members. BTW, you have to be a PCA member (and you have to OWN a Porsche to BE a PCA member) to come to any of the Parade functions.
04-10-2013, 10:50 PM
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Sean, thanks for bringing that up again, we can always count on you. You are probably looking for the word "leveled" not "leveraged" btw, but that is neither here nor there (or their, or they're??? ;-) Lighten up man, we have been over this about 100 times, I think everyone knows the REAL score on this!
You are quite correct though about Jerry being able to organize his event how he wants, and Malcolm is and Jim and Roger (and I suppose You since you continue to thrust yourself right in the middle of it all the time) did for the 2009 and 2012 events. The OC only provided money for those events, not planning. So the organizers have in fact made all the calls on what would happen and when it would happen. Just like Marc White did in the original 2000 and 2004 OCIC's. He is a track hound so he included track days with each of those events. AWESOME!
There will be guidelines soon though. So by the time Jerry's event happens it will be compliant with those as will the 2014 event, or they won't be OCIC's. It is that simple.
You are quite correct though about Jerry being able to organize his event how he wants, and Malcolm is and Jim and Roger (and I suppose You since you continue to thrust yourself right in the middle of it all the time) did for the 2009 and 2012 events. The OC only provided money for those events, not planning. So the organizers have in fact made all the calls on what would happen and when it would happen. Just like Marc White did in the original 2000 and 2004 OCIC's. He is a track hound so he included track days with each of those events. AWESOME!
There will be guidelines soon though. So by the time Jerry's event happens it will be compliant with those as will the 2014 event, or they won't be OCIC's. It is that simple.
Be the man James, stand up and lead. Not just send nice emails behind the scenes trying to appease everyone.
04-10-2013, 11:47 PM
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James a very positive and constructive response from the President of the OC – Kudos.
For the OCIC events that the DFW group helped to organize we made OC registration – for example $100 – and for none members – for example $140 – so it made it worthwhile to join the club for circa $28 and save money.
You need to read a little more carefully about what JF – THE NEW LEADER OF OCIC FUNCTIONS – is saying. All OCIC events will be held yearly and possibly on the July 4th weekend maybe.
My understanding is that no one person should assume leadership of OCIC events and that permission should be requested from the OC to hold an event where the OC name is used on an individual basis. His – JF – would preclude anyone else from holding a similar event.
Why does the OC continue to let this runaway individual make these statements without any control from the OC. Don’t get me going again 8>).
For the OCIC events that the DFW group helped to organize we made OC registration – for example $100 – and for none members – for example $140 – so it made it worthwhile to join the club for circa $28 and save money.
You need to read a little more carefully about what JF – THE NEW LEADER OF OCIC FUNCTIONS – is saying. All OCIC events will be held yearly and possibly on the July 4th weekend maybe.
My understanding is that no one person should assume leadership of OCIC events and that permission should be requested from the OC to hold an event where the OC name is used on an individual basis. His – JF – would preclude anyone else from holding a similar event.
Why does the OC continue to let this runaway individual make these statements without any control from the OC. Don’t get me going again 8>).