Paint? or Wrap?
01-21-2013, 01:35 AM
#1
Racer
Thread Starter
Paint? or Wrap?
Paint or Wrap? That is the question.
I'm sure most of you have seen the bodily condition of my 928 (look at my avatar for the general idea). So the right side quarter panel and fender are a little messed up, along with the rear bumper cover having a big crack in it and scrapes, as well as the front bumper having some general damage to the paint, and the driver's side rear quarter window has some rust, and the hood and roof has tons of scratches/crazing/oxidation, but other than that, it's pretty good
My problem: I am strapped for cash. As much as I'd love to pamper her and send her to a body shop to get a $15,000 paint job, that's just not gonna happen. Here are two options running through my head:
#1 - I go through with fixing the two body panels with the help of a bodyman friend of mine, and respray them along with the door, and front and rear bumper covers. Then I attempt to polish as much of the paint damage in the other panels as much as possible so they don't show when wrapped. Proceeding that I have the car wrapped, most likely by yours truly.
#2 - Strip the entire exterior of paint, remove trim and remove the other quarter window to repair the rust. Delete rub strips and fed-added rear side markers. Still have bodyman straighten messed up parts. Proceed with painting original color (L662) or another recommended color, just not red
The reason I'm considering #1 is mainly for the reason that I need to save up money for studying abroad, and I don't think it'll cost as much. I know that is only a temporary solution, but if I still have the car 5 years from now, then I will have graduated and most likely (hopefully, maybe) have a decent job where I could afford to have a proper paint job done by a painter who knows what he is doing.
Thoughts and opinions appreciated!
I'm sure most of you have seen the bodily condition of my 928 (look at my avatar for the general idea). So the right side quarter panel and fender are a little messed up, along with the rear bumper cover having a big crack in it and scrapes, as well as the front bumper having some general damage to the paint, and the driver's side rear quarter window has some rust, and the hood and roof has tons of scratches/crazing/oxidation, but other than that, it's pretty good
My problem: I am strapped for cash. As much as I'd love to pamper her and send her to a body shop to get a $15,000 paint job, that's just not gonna happen. Here are two options running through my head:
#1 - I go through with fixing the two body panels with the help of a bodyman friend of mine, and respray them along with the door, and front and rear bumper covers. Then I attempt to polish as much of the paint damage in the other panels as much as possible so they don't show when wrapped. Proceeding that I have the car wrapped, most likely by yours truly.
#2 - Strip the entire exterior of paint, remove trim and remove the other quarter window to repair the rust. Delete rub strips and fed-added rear side markers. Still have bodyman straighten messed up parts. Proceed with painting original color (L662) or another recommended color, just not red
The reason I'm considering #1 is mainly for the reason that I need to save up money for studying abroad, and I don't think it'll cost as much. I know that is only a temporary solution, but if I still have the car 5 years from now, then I will have graduated and most likely (hopefully, maybe) have a decent job where I could afford to have a proper paint job done by a painter who knows what he is doing.
Thoughts and opinions appreciated!
01-21-2013, 10:06 PM
#5
Racer
Thread Starter
01-21-2013, 10:27 PM
#6
Rennlist Member
Paint or Wrap? That is the question.
I'm sure most of you have seen the bodily condition of my 928 (look at my avatar for the general idea). So the right side quarter panel and fender are a little messed up, along with the rear bumper cover having a big crack in it and scrapes, as well as the front bumper having some general damage to the paint, and the driver's side rear quarter window has some rust, and the hood and roof has tons of scratches/crazing/oxidation, but other than that, it's pretty good
My problem: I am strapped for cash. As much as I'd love to pamper her and send her to a body shop to get a $15,000 paint job, that's just not gonna happen. Here are two options running through my head:
#1 - I go through with fixing the two body panels with the help of a bodyman friend of mine, and respray them along with the door, and front and rear bumper covers. Then I attempt to polish as much of the paint damage in the other panels as much as possible so they don't show when wrapped. Proceeding that I have the car wrapped, most likely by yours truly.
#2 - Strip the entire exterior of paint, remove trim and remove the other quarter window to repair the rust. Delete rub strips and fed-added rear side markers. Still have bodyman straighten messed up parts. Proceed with painting original color (L662) or another recommended color, just not red
The reason I'm considering #1 is mainly for the reason that I need to save up money for studying abroad, and I don't think it'll cost as much. I know that is only a temporary solution, but if I still have the car 5 years from now, then I will have graduated and most likely (hopefully, maybe) have a decent job where I could afford to have a proper paint job done by a painter who knows what he is doing.
Thoughts and opinions appreciated!
I'm sure most of you have seen the bodily condition of my 928 (look at my avatar for the general idea). So the right side quarter panel and fender are a little messed up, along with the rear bumper cover having a big crack in it and scrapes, as well as the front bumper having some general damage to the paint, and the driver's side rear quarter window has some rust, and the hood and roof has tons of scratches/crazing/oxidation, but other than that, it's pretty good
My problem: I am strapped for cash. As much as I'd love to pamper her and send her to a body shop to get a $15,000 paint job, that's just not gonna happen. Here are two options running through my head:
#1 - I go through with fixing the two body panels with the help of a bodyman friend of mine, and respray them along with the door, and front and rear bumper covers. Then I attempt to polish as much of the paint damage in the other panels as much as possible so they don't show when wrapped. Proceeding that I have the car wrapped, most likely by yours truly.
#2 - Strip the entire exterior of paint, remove trim and remove the other quarter window to repair the rust. Delete rub strips and fed-added rear side markers. Still have bodyman straighten messed up parts. Proceed with painting original color (L662) or another recommended color, just not red
The reason I'm considering #1 is mainly for the reason that I need to save up money for studying abroad, and I don't think it'll cost as much. I know that is only a temporary solution, but if I still have the car 5 years from now, then I will have graduated and most likely (hopefully, maybe) have a decent job where I could afford to have a proper paint job done by a painter who knows what he is doing.
Thoughts and opinions appreciated!
Last edited by 77tony; 01-21-2013 at 11:39 PM.
01-22-2013, 01:41 AM
#7
Rennlist Member
All good advice, Tony. You can get the materials online and disassemble the car yourself. You and your body man friend can do all the prep work. Can he not get you connected with a painter who can shoot it for you? 
Recommendation: DO NOT strip the entire car to the bare metal. Your old Porsche is not the same as an old Mopar. It came with top notch corrosion protection (E-coat) from the factory that cannot be restored once it is removed. Obviously, there will be places where you will sand to metal as you will be applying filler. Use a DTM(direct-to-metal) primer or self etching primer over these areas. Over aluminum, use a zinc chromate epoxy primer only. Remember that aluminum begins oxidizing immediately, so apply the undercoat soon after sanding or re-sand just before primer.
There are many different thoughts as to what the appropriate price range should be for complete resprays. I recommend R-M basecoat and Glasurit clearcoat. R-M Diamont is polyester base as is Glasurit 55-line. Glasurit 923-450 clear; can't beat the appearance or UV protection. You get what you pay for. Both R-M and Glasurit are BASF and fully compatible. You can get the materials for around 2K, depending on color. If a customer brought me a 928 that were already disassembled, I would charge no more than the cost of the materials to respray the car. Body work, of course, is an additional cost.. IMHO it makes no sense to wrap.
Recommendation: DO NOT strip the entire car to the bare metal. Your old Porsche is not the same as an old Mopar. It came with top notch corrosion protection (E-coat) from the factory that cannot be restored once it is removed. Obviously, there will be places where you will sand to metal as you will be applying filler. Use a DTM(direct-to-metal) primer or self etching primer over these areas. Over aluminum, use a zinc chromate epoxy primer only. Remember that aluminum begins oxidizing immediately, so apply the undercoat soon after sanding or re-sand just before primer.
There are many different thoughts as to what the appropriate price range should be for complete resprays. I recommend R-M basecoat and Glasurit clearcoat. R-M Diamont is polyester base as is Glasurit 55-line. Glasurit 923-450 clear; can't beat the appearance or UV protection. You get what you pay for. Both R-M and Glasurit are BASF and fully compatible. You can get the materials for around 2K, depending on color. If a customer brought me a 928 that were already disassembled, I would charge no more than the cost of the materials to respray the car. Body work, of course, is an additional cost.. IMHO it makes no sense to wrap.
