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The 6L80E does not fit in the back of the 928. The body of the transmission is too long compared to the 6-speed C5 Corvette Borg Warner T-56 that Dinsdale has successfully installed, and the 4L60E.
I am choosing an auto C5 box later on also since my wife will be driving the car also. I understand that paddle shift 'feels' just like any other auto that is driven like shifting the T-handle. However, with paddle shift being such a modern concept, and having the ability to shift from the steering wheel, it seems convenient to incorporate this in a C5 auto drop setup.
At the same time, one of the products I highlighted in the previous post regarding Powertrain Control Solutions changes the typical T-handle auto shifter setup to a push-button type shifter, completely eliminating the T-handle in the center console. See image below..
![](http://www.powertraincontrolsolutions.com/product/images/gsm5000big.jpg)
I am choosing an auto C5 box later on also since my wife will be driving the car also. I understand that paddle shift 'feels' just like any other auto that is driven like shifting the T-handle. However, with paddle shift being such a modern concept, and having the ability to shift from the steering wheel, it seems convenient to incorporate this in a C5 auto drop setup.
At the same time, one of the products I highlighted in the previous post regarding Powertrain Control Solutions changes the typical T-handle auto shifter setup to a push-button type shifter, completely eliminating the T-handle in the center console. See image below..
![](http://www.powertraincontrolsolutions.com/product/images/gsm5000big.jpg)
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I agree with the comment regarding paddle shifters. My MB SL55 AMG has the three options - standard Automatic, tiptronic and or paddle shifter. I used the tiptronic for the two days I drove on the track, use the paddles about once a month, just to show someone what they are and how they function. 99+% of the miles are in good old quick shifting automatic (I DO wish I had this 5 speed transmission with a low numerical final drive - less than 2.2 - in my GTS. A 6 speed would be even better!).
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The T handle gets replaced by a big black box. Unless you can hide it somewhere other than where the T handle used to be, it will be more of an eyesore that the original shifter. I understand the novelty of a paddle shifter but unless you planning on using the shifter all the time, I guarantee you it will get old, fast, there is little point doing it. Unless its a DSG transmission, paddle shifters have no real purpose in a car.
With regards to choosing the 4L60E with paddle shift over the 6L80, I would prefer to go that route since most aftermarket TCUs on the market are perfected with the C5 Auto. A 4L60E with a 3.73 or 3.90 would be a fun little car to drive around town, but possibly a gas mileage nightmare at 65 mph.
By the way, can anyone answer this? Why does the C5 Corvette owners manual state the Final Drive Ratio as 1.91, but the axle ratio as 3.42 for the automatic, that is if the car has the 3.42 option?
How would that relate to the 928? The final drive ratio is 2.20 on the '87-'88 S4.
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That looks like it belongs in a bus.
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Not sure what you mean by 'big black box'. The digital control module present is no bigger than the shifter plate. With a little customization, a plate can be fabbed to conform around the digital shifter and mount it flush with the plate itself. I think it would look rather unsual, but intriguing at the same time.
With regards to choosing the 4L60E with paddle shift over the 6L80, I would prefer to go that route since most aftermarket TCUs on the market are perfected with the C5 Auto. A 4L60E with a 3.73 or 3.90 would be a fun little car to drive around town, but possibly a gas mileage nightmare at 65 mph.
By the way, can anyone answer this? Why does the C5 Corvette owners manual state the Final Drive Ratio as 1.91, but the axle ratio as 3.42 for the automatic, that is if the car has the 3.42 option?
How would that relate to the 928? The final drive ratio is 2.20 on the '87-'88 S4.
With regards to choosing the 4L60E with paddle shift over the 6L80, I would prefer to go that route since most aftermarket TCUs on the market are perfected with the C5 Auto. A 4L60E with a 3.73 or 3.90 would be a fun little car to drive around town, but possibly a gas mileage nightmare at 65 mph.
By the way, can anyone answer this? Why does the C5 Corvette owners manual state the Final Drive Ratio as 1.91, but the axle ratio as 3.42 for the automatic, that is if the car has the 3.42 option?
How would that relate to the 928? The final drive ratio is 2.20 on the '87-'88 S4.
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I'm going with a 4 speed auto with a 2.72 that I already have on hand for my next 928 hybrid. Now that the clutch is broke in, I start in 2nd gear and go straight to 4th. Sips gas as a DD if I can keep my foot out of it.
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The box is not that large. See the video. PCS may have also created a shorter cable due for purchase too. I bet you that sucker would fit either under an aftermarket seat or if you have a rear seat delete, under the frame of it. If people can shove a subwoofer and amp where the seats are, why the hell wouldn't the box fit there too?
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By the way, can anyone answer this? Why does the C5 Corvette owners manual state the Final Drive Ratio as 1.91, but the axle ratio as 3.42 for the automatic, that is if the car has the 3.42 option?
How would that relate to the 928? The final drive ratio is 2.20 on the '87-'88 S4.
How would that relate to the 928? The final drive ratio is 2.20 on the '87-'88 S4.
Just got a little extra info. Turns out I was right!
http://www.tim-yvonne.com/mikemercury/ratio.htm
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As far as I know the 3.42 was the final drive for the M6/M12 (Z06) cars, and not the autos. The final drive for the automatic was generally a 2.73 with another optional ratio I believe (3.15?). I'm pretty sure the 1.91 is the last ratio in the TRANS, not the rear.
Just got a little extra info. Turns out I was right!
http://www.tim-yvonne.com/mikemercury/ratio.htm
Just got a little extra info. Turns out I was right!
http://www.tim-yvonne.com/mikemercury/ratio.htm