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Old 11-26-2012, 04:12 PM
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Im almost there John..working on this fuel harmonic.

Othewise, runs like mad over 4000rpm where the issue goes away.
Old 11-26-2012, 04:28 PM
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OK, thanks ! You can use the stock data log of MAF volts up to 5.1v and RPM against the dyno figures. I don't think you will get above that with your SMAF .....

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Im almost there John..working on this fuel harmonic.

Othewise, runs like mad over 4000rpm where the issue goes away.
Old 11-26-2012, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by John Speake
OK, thanks ! You can use the stock data log of MAF volts up to 5.1v and RPM against the dyno figures. I don't think you will get above that with your SMAF .....
When Im on the load dyno..I will have data per run (which will be centered on each RPM column in the fuel maps) from the ST and from the dyno.


That should get you what you're looking for, yes?
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Originally Posted by John Speake
The graph is an attempt to predict the MAF and SMAF charactristics at flow rates well in excess of what I can achive on the bench. Although the limit value of 6.1v tallys well with our rule of thumb that about about 440HP crank is the limit for a stock MAF, the predicted power values at the higher voltages are over optimistic, I believe.
Interesting graphs - the only data I've got (bosch info) covers up to 930 kg/h flow.

I'll see if I can attach the PDF to add to the archives (NFI where I got it from - I saved from somewhere back in 2007)
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Thanks Hilton, we already had that data, and if you look hard at the graph, the first part of the stock MAF curve is that published data, then the calculated line beyond their highest values provides the next part. Knowing the conversion law from MAF to SMAF, the SMAF graph was plotted from the MAF curve.

As Jim stated, assumptions were made about the VE of a tyical engine.
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Perfect ! As you will also be logging MAF signal (abs) then you will be able to provide the data the OP asked for...

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When Im on the load dyno..I will have data per run (which will be centered on each RPM column in the fuel maps) from the ST and from the dyno.


That should get you what you're looking for, yes?
Old 11-27-2012, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by John Speake
Perfect ! As you will also be logging MAF signal (abs) then you will be able to provide the data the OP asked for...
Thanks guys, all that information is/will be useful.

Jim, I'll send you some of my logs which have plenty of data above 4500 in 4th gear.
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Im headed for the dyno this weekend. Gobs O data for JS to review then.



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