2nd oil analysis on Casper!!!
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this is a great pic......then the center mounted, spring loaded rubber center section that literally "sucks" into place...you have to push the pan in place just a little bit to get the spring to compress
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also you will need to change to the early dipstick......otherwise you are forced to rip a hole in the mesh screen.....this is how I ran the estate....but the early pan goes through the little hole at the bottom on the pic
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This was not my latest motor but the one previous. My latest motor is still in the car so no idea what went wrong there.
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What are does black plates behind the screen, do they just lay there, I did not know they had that behind the screen.
Here are two shots of the 'petals' that surround the early pickup, and serve as baffles:
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Wow, do the petals get sucked up by the pickup tube once the car is started? I guess that is what Brian means by center section getting sucked into place. Interesting design....
Thanks Rob for the pics.
Thanks Rob for the pics.
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So what are you saying now? The OB pan is a better set up than the OB pan and spacer? If so I would have to disagree.
I would add a pan spacer, Doc's windage bits and an accusump. Then drive the bag off the thing which you seem to be doing anyways.
It will be interesting to see how long this engine lasts as is with no aftermarket pieces. If it lasts like the Estate junk yard motor lasted then we have some very compelling Data.
Then we must consider the 16V heads VS the 32V heads and their role in oiling related engine failures.
I would add a pan spacer, Doc's windage bits and an accusump. Then drive the bag off the thing which you seem to be doing anyways.
It will be interesting to see how long this engine lasts as is with no aftermarket pieces. If it lasts like the Estate junk yard motor lasted then we have some very compelling Data.
Then we must consider the 16V heads VS the 32V heads and their role in oiling related engine failures.
giive me all the theory you want, but test things emperically! i race and race the 928 motor hard with NO oil pressure issues run a good engine (brian, dont toss in your suspect engines that failed to the mix they were "dead men walking engines") run amsoil, the right weight, and dont carve turns at redline, and be smart on the track and you will have no issues with the 928 engine. PLUS, go through a good warm up routine before beating on the engine. get it heat soaked before pounding on it on the track. (oil temps to 180 at least)
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Everyone knows how much you believe in the stock S4 oiling system, but the harsh reality is you are the ONLY one that can make it survive on track..... Sean had properly rebuilt engines blow in 10 hours on track.....along with all of the other engines that I blew up or found damaged rod bearings in....
6 Engines total.... driven on the same tracks as you with MUCH more time on engines.... You count "races" or "race days" I count HOURS ON TRACK..... The estate is nearly 100hours.....my current engine is around 8 hours.... A typical race day for you is maybe 45 minutes on track...only 25 at race pace... Less if you just do qual and race....that could be a 35 minute day..... Scott's hasn't see a race in years.....
I try to get at least 2 hours on track PER DAY.....otherwise why go....
Don't forget all the issues 944's have on the same tracks..... This is something that we will NEVER agree on, and I tried it "your" way and have the trails of engine parts to prove it....so did Sean, so did Louie ott, Don Hansen, Dennis Kao and others that all blew engines (or came close) at Thunderhill....
Honestly the only way to truely test your theory is to data log your oil pressure vs G forces in turns with both you driving and others.....but we both know the minute someone else drives your 928 what will happen..................."boom" comes to mind.....
Everyone knows how much you believe in the stock S4 oiling system, but the harsh reality is you are the ONLY one that can make it survive on track..... Sean had properly rebuilt engines blow in 10 hours on track.....along with all of the other engines that I blew up or found damaged rod bearings in....
6 Engines total.... driven on the same tracks as you with MUCH more time on engines.... You count "races" or "race days" I count HOURS ON TRACK..... The estate is nearly 100hours.....my current engine is around 8 hours.... A typical race day for you is maybe 45 minutes on track...only 25 at race pace... Less if you just do qual and race....that could be a 35 minute day..... Scott's hasn't see a race in years.....
I try to get at least 2 hours on track PER DAY.....otherwise why go....
Don't forget all the issues 944's have on the same tracks..... This is something that we will NEVER agree on, and I tried it "your" way and have the trails of engine parts to prove it....so did Sean, so did Louie ott, Don Hansen, Dennis Kao and others that all blew engines (or came close) at Thunderhill....
Honestly the only way to truely test your theory is to data log your oil pressure vs G forces in turns with both you driving and others.....but we both know the minute someone else drives your 928 what will happen..................."boom" comes to mind.....