Shark repaint
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Shark repaint
Does anyone have an idea what it would roughly run to repaint a 928 in the same color and not to a concours level but say an 8/10. Trying to get an idea before I pull the trigger. Thanks!
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Depends where you live.
The painter I use does great work and only charges $2500 - $3000 for a complete paint job.
In case anyone wants to challenge me (or his quality), he does at least 3 cars a year for SEMA.
If you look for a painter who specializes in porsche, you will get a porsche level price tag.
The painter I use does great work and only charges $2500 - $3000 for a complete paint job.
In case anyone wants to challenge me (or his quality), he does at least 3 cars a year for SEMA.
If you look for a painter who specializes in porsche, you will get a porsche level price tag.
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I need to get my eyes checked, I thought the topic of this thread was: "Shark repellent"
I was quoted $2,500 - $3k from a respected painter in my area if I deliver the car stripped (bumper, mirrors, 1/4 glass etc..) and I do the re-assembly.
I was quoted $2,500 - $3k from a respected painter in my area if I deliver the car stripped (bumper, mirrors, 1/4 glass etc..) and I do the re-assembly.
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Depends where you live.
The painter I use does great work and only charges $2500 - $3000 for a complete paint job.
In case anyone wants to challenge me (or his quality), he does at least 3 cars a year for SEMA.
If you look for a painter who specializes in porsche, you will get a porsche level price tag.
The painter I use does great work and only charges $2500 - $3000 for a complete paint job.
In case anyone wants to challenge me (or his quality), he does at least 3 cars a year for SEMA.
If you look for a painter who specializes in porsche, you will get a porsche level price tag.
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Depends where you live.
The painter I use does great work and only charges $2500 - $3000 for a complete paint job.
In case anyone wants to challenge me (or his quality), he does at least 3 cars a year for SEMA.
If you look for a painter who specializes in porsche, you will get a porsche level price tag.
The painter I use does great work and only charges $2500 - $3000 for a complete paint job.
In case anyone wants to challenge me (or his quality), he does at least 3 cars a year for SEMA.
If you look for a painter who specializes in porsche, you will get a porsche level price tag.
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I can't imagine any paint job that would be as low as all of the ones quoted above being an 8 out of 10 or better. $6k or less for a full body paint seems way too low to be of any quality whatsoever. I had my prior shark partially resprayed - hood, front cover, driver's door, mirrors for just under $3K. I would figure at least $8 or $9K for a quality complete job, and well above $10k for a very good job. What do you guys consider good for those prices?
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I am a professional body/paint guy. Let me tell you all from first hand experience.. These cars are very difficult to paint. It isn't the hardest car I've ever disassembled/reassembled, but it is high ranking. For example, R&I (remove & install) work is particularly tricky with the doors and around the windshield trim. It is VERY difficult to remove that stuff without damaging it. The trim is of high quality; "made to fit" as some would say. There aren't plastic clips holding these bits on as seen on cheaper, domestic cars. The car is built like a fortress! The trim around the door glass has a section, up by the mirror, that makes about 120 degree turn. That section is riveted on to the door shell.
I can't emphasize how important being patient and taking your time with taking it apart really is.
There are too many variables associated to estimate the final bill. How rough is the car? How much body work involved? This directly correlates to the final bill as it will determine how much primer and/or filler associated. Premium fillers run $50 a gallon. Glazing putty isn't cheap either. A good urethane primer will be about $300 for a gallon, including all components. Then you get to topcoats where there is a wide variety of choices. Using Glasurit, which is a top-of-the-line German paint brand, you could easily spend $1500-$2500 in topcoats. The price of basecoat varies on vehicle color. For example, red is much higher than white or black. There are many options on clear. My favorite is Glasurit 923-450. A gallon is about $300 not including hardener and reducer and it mixes 2:1:10%, so the other ingredients add up. I would estimate a sprayable gallon to cost about $500.
Most 928s need minimal bodywork. They don't beat up easy. So assuming mostly just paint flaws, I probably wouldn't price the job under $5k. About 65% of that cost would cover materials and I would not dare r&i, repair, and repaint an entire 928 for under $2k, for labor. That's as cheap as I could do it. Of course, the owner has other options to explore with regard to materials. I would recommend Glasurit for two reasons. First, it's the OE brand on most of our 928s. Secondly, with fresh paint, it would stand out easily against any brand new car with factory paint. You'd have the slickest car around.
I can't emphasize how important being patient and taking your time with taking it apart really is.
There are too many variables associated to estimate the final bill. How rough is the car? How much body work involved? This directly correlates to the final bill as it will determine how much primer and/or filler associated. Premium fillers run $50 a gallon. Glazing putty isn't cheap either. A good urethane primer will be about $300 for a gallon, including all components. Then you get to topcoats where there is a wide variety of choices. Using Glasurit, which is a top-of-the-line German paint brand, you could easily spend $1500-$2500 in topcoats. The price of basecoat varies on vehicle color. For example, red is much higher than white or black. There are many options on clear. My favorite is Glasurit 923-450. A gallon is about $300 not including hardener and reducer and it mixes 2:1:10%, so the other ingredients add up. I would estimate a sprayable gallon to cost about $500.
Most 928s need minimal bodywork. They don't beat up easy. So assuming mostly just paint flaws, I probably wouldn't price the job under $5k. About 65% of that cost would cover materials and I would not dare r&i, repair, and repaint an entire 928 for under $2k, for labor. That's as cheap as I could do it. Of course, the owner has other options to explore with regard to materials. I would recommend Glasurit for two reasons. First, it's the OE brand on most of our 928s. Secondly, with fresh paint, it would stand out easily against any brand new car with factory paint. You'd have the slickest car around.
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I think anyone saying < 5k is trying to steal from you, however it also depends on what you think 'good' is.
If you're used to factory domestic Orange peel and flat looking shallow base clear finishes, and don't mind 'wavy' paint you can get it done for about 3k. I have been shopping for a paint job now for about 6 months and there is definitely several price points you are going to meet. The ultra low- Maaco job looks good for about a year, then it will either peel (bumpers without adequate hardeners) or chip (too soft or thick?)
Then again paint can be time consuming, and one of the problems with a cheap paint job is the will rush it and not allow the paint to set up, or they will shortcut your sanding and not get the paint flat ..
For what you spend on a cheap cheap (sub 3k) paintjob, you would be better off doing a tent job if you are willing to spend the 30-40 hours you really would need sanding and blocking the car.
Right in the ~3k range you get the guys that are going to skimp on prep and or sanding. They will use better materials but its very hit or miss.
The labor cost for painting any car (but especially one with the curves and reflective surfaces of the 928) is going to take a lot of time to sand and get things 'flat' so the reflective-ness looks consistent. The materials alone would be easily 2k (counting all the sanding pads, clean cloths, paint, putty, primer, flex agent, etc etc..). Nickle and dime materials = more labor profit for the painter, or premium materials = shoddy prep.
Your highest paint point will be one where the painter chooses premium materials, preps your surfaces , lets the primer and color coats set up correctly, and has the knowledge and experience to apply the paint correctly.
Experimenting with expensive materials or spending time shooting bad paint on your car will end up costing twice as much later and you may end up with thick, badly sprayed, fisheyed, runny, orange-peel looking paint/clear coat finish that will make you miss that old factory paint (no matter how faded or chipped it was...
(sorry I got ripped on a paint job on my Rx7 and Im still bitter. Don't end up 2 years later with a bitter paint job by going 'too cheap' )..
If you're used to factory domestic Orange peel and flat looking shallow base clear finishes, and don't mind 'wavy' paint you can get it done for about 3k. I have been shopping for a paint job now for about 6 months and there is definitely several price points you are going to meet. The ultra low- Maaco job looks good for about a year, then it will either peel (bumpers without adequate hardeners) or chip (too soft or thick?)
Then again paint can be time consuming, and one of the problems with a cheap paint job is the will rush it and not allow the paint to set up, or they will shortcut your sanding and not get the paint flat ..
For what you spend on a cheap cheap (sub 3k) paintjob, you would be better off doing a tent job if you are willing to spend the 30-40 hours you really would need sanding and blocking the car.
Right in the ~3k range you get the guys that are going to skimp on prep and or sanding. They will use better materials but its very hit or miss.
The labor cost for painting any car (but especially one with the curves and reflective surfaces of the 928) is going to take a lot of time to sand and get things 'flat' so the reflective-ness looks consistent. The materials alone would be easily 2k (counting all the sanding pads, clean cloths, paint, putty, primer, flex agent, etc etc..). Nickle and dime materials = more labor profit for the painter, or premium materials = shoddy prep.
Your highest paint point will be one where the painter chooses premium materials, preps your surfaces , lets the primer and color coats set up correctly, and has the knowledge and experience to apply the paint correctly.
Experimenting with expensive materials or spending time shooting bad paint on your car will end up costing twice as much later and you may end up with thick, badly sprayed, fisheyed, runny, orange-peel looking paint/clear coat finish that will make you miss that old factory paint (no matter how faded or chipped it was...
(sorry I got ripped on a paint job on my Rx7 and Im still bitter. Don't end up 2 years later with a bitter paint job by going 'too cheap' )..
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I have seen a damn good job or two done for 2k though.
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Just as a data point, the PO of my GTS had it repainted in Portland, OR in 2006. Kept the original color, removed the rub strips, filled in the rear hatch wiper motor holes, and replaced all the weatherstripping.
Subtotals:
$1537 in paint (Spies-Hecker Midnight Blue Metallic and Sekkens)
$4256 in weatherstripping, replacement parts, trim, and bodywork
$5116 in labor
Total $ 10,911. Is that too much? Dunno, and maybe he paid the Porsche tax, but they did a nice job.
Subtotals:
$1537 in paint (Spies-Hecker Midnight Blue Metallic and Sekkens)
$4256 in weatherstripping, replacement parts, trim, and bodywork
$5116 in labor
Total $ 10,911. Is that too much? Dunno, and maybe he paid the Porsche tax, but they did a nice job.