NY Texas road trip - bad start.
#32
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#33
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dont use that oil stick with mobil 1 15W50 or 20w 50
it might be worth sending Castrol a letter explaining what happened to your engine.
you have to go back to what you fixed last and that was an oil change to a lighter weight oil.
maybe the rings seized. due to lack of lubrication
it might be worth sending Castrol a letter explaining what happened to your engine.
you have to go back to what you fixed last and that was an oil change to a lighter weight oil.
maybe the rings seized. due to lack of lubrication
#34
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dont use that oil stick with mobil 1 15W50 or 20w 50
it might be worth sending Castrol a letter explaining what happened to your engine.
you have to go back to what you fixed last and that was an oil change to a lighter weight oil.
maybe the rings seized. due to lack of lubrication
it might be worth sending Castrol a letter explaining what happened to your engine.
you have to go back to what you fixed last and that was an oil change to a lighter weight oil.
maybe the rings seized. due to lack of lubrication
#35
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Check their disclaimers-and also check with a lawyer friend if you have one.
#37
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WOW THIS:
http://www.castrol.com/castrol/gener...tentId=7032644
EDGE 5W-50 WITH SYNTEC
POWER TECHNOLOGY
EXCEPTIONAL ENGINE PROTECTION FOR CLASSIC CARS
Castrol has transitioned SYNTEC 20W-50 formulated for classic car engines to Castrol EDGE 5W-50 with SYNTEC Power Technology. Castrol EDGE 5W-50 offers performance improvements over SYNTEC 20W-50 in a number of key areas.
http://www.castrol.com/castrol/gener...tentId=7032644
EDGE 5W-50 WITH SYNTEC
POWER TECHNOLOGY
EXCEPTIONAL ENGINE PROTECTION FOR CLASSIC CARS
Castrol has transitioned SYNTEC 20W-50 formulated for classic car engines to Castrol EDGE 5W-50 with SYNTEC Power Technology. Castrol EDGE 5W-50 offers performance improvements over SYNTEC 20W-50 in a number of key areas.
#38
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And this:
http://www.castrol.com/castrol/gener...tentId=7032644
OUR LIABILITY TO YOU
THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS WEBSITE IS NOT COMPREHENSIVE. DESPITE OUR EFFORTS, IT MAY NOT BE ACCURATE, UP TO DATE OR APPLICABLE TO THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF ANY PARTICULAR CASE. WE CANNOT ACCEPT ANY LIABILITY FOR ANY INACCURACIES OR OMISSIONS (OTHER THAN FOR FRAUDULENT MISREPRESENTATION) IN THIS WEBSITE AND ANY DECISIONS YOU MAKE BASED ON INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS WEBSITE ARE YOUR SOLE RESPONSIBILITY. NEITHER BP Lubricants USA, Inc., NOR ANY OF ITS AFFILIATES ACCEPT LIABILITY FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR OTHER LOSS OR DAMAGE OF WHATSOEVER KIND ARISING OUT OF ACCESS TO, OR THE USE OF THIS WEBSITE OR ANY INFORMATION CONTAINED IN IT.
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http://www.castrol.com/castrol/gener...tentId=7032644
OUR LIABILITY TO YOU
THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS WEBSITE IS NOT COMPREHENSIVE. DESPITE OUR EFFORTS, IT MAY NOT BE ACCURATE, UP TO DATE OR APPLICABLE TO THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF ANY PARTICULAR CASE. WE CANNOT ACCEPT ANY LIABILITY FOR ANY INACCURACIES OR OMISSIONS (OTHER THAN FOR FRAUDULENT MISREPRESENTATION) IN THIS WEBSITE AND ANY DECISIONS YOU MAKE BASED ON INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS WEBSITE ARE YOUR SOLE RESPONSIBILITY. NEITHER BP Lubricants USA, Inc., NOR ANY OF ITS AFFILIATES ACCEPT LIABILITY FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR OTHER LOSS OR DAMAGE OF WHATSOEVER KIND ARISING OUT OF ACCESS TO, OR THE USE OF THIS WEBSITE OR ANY INFORMATION CONTAINED IN IT.
YOUR USE OF CASTROL.COM/US IS AT YOUR OWN RISK. CASTROL.COM/US IS PROVIDED ON AN “AS IS” AND “AS AVAILABLE” BASIS. NEITHER CASTROL OR ITS AFFILIATES WARRANT THAT CASTROL.COM/US WILL BE UNINTERRUPTED OR ERROR FREE; NOR DO THEY MAKE ANY WARRANTY AS TO THE RESULTS THAT MAY BE OBTAINED FROM THE USE OF CASTROL.COM/US, OR AS TO THE ACCURACY, RELIABILITY OR CONTENT OF ANY INFORMATION OR SERVICE ON CASTROL.COM/US OR INFORMATION OR SERVICE OR PRODUCT ON ANY OTHER WEBSITE ACCESSED THROUGH CASTROL.COM/US.
#39
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Yep. That's what got me. Improved 5w-50 over Syntec 20w-50.
We put recommended Castrol in our X5, but I just think this was a bad recommendation for our 928's.
I'm old. I'm a 10w-40 Dino oil guy (for American iron). But I was very happy with the 20w-50 Castrol Syntec. It was great.
I've initiated a dialog with Castrol. Let's see where it goes.
We put recommended Castrol in our X5, but I just think this was a bad recommendation for our 928's.
I'm old. I'm a 10w-40 Dino oil guy (for American iron). But I was very happy with the 20w-50 Castrol Syntec. It was great.
I've initiated a dialog with Castrol. Let's see where it goes.
#40
Race Car
Yep. That's what got me. Improved 5w-50 over Syntec 20w-50.
We put recommended Castrol in our X5, but I just think this was a bad recommendation for our 928's.
I'm old. I'm a 10w-40 Dino oil guy (for American iron). But I was very happy with the 20w-50 Castrol Syntec. It was great.
I've initiated a dialog with Castrol. Let's see where it goes.
We put recommended Castrol in our X5, but I just think this was a bad recommendation for our 928's.
I'm old. I'm a 10w-40 Dino oil guy (for American iron). But I was very happy with the 20w-50 Castrol Syntec. It was great.
I've initiated a dialog with Castrol. Let's see where it goes.
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And this:
http://www.castrol.com/castrol/gener...tentId=7032644
OUR LIABILITY TO YOU
THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS WEBSITE IS NOT COMPREHENSIVE. DESPITE OUR EFFORTS, IT MAY NOT BE ACCURATE, UP TO DATE OR APPLICABLE TO THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF ANY PARTICULAR CASE. WE CANNOT ACCEPT ANY LIABILITY FOR ANY INACCURACIES OR OMISSIONS (OTHER THAN FOR FRAUDULENT MISREPRESENTATION) IN THIS WEBSITE AND ANY DECISIONS YOU MAKE BASED ON INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS WEBSITE ARE YOUR SOLE RESPONSIBILITY. NEITHER BP Lubricants USA, Inc., NOR ANY OF ITS AFFILIATES ACCEPT LIABILITY FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR OTHER LOSS OR DAMAGE OF WHATSOEVER KIND ARISING OUT OF ACCESS TO, OR THE USE OF THIS WEBSITE OR ANY INFORMATION CONTAINED IN IT.
YOUR USE OF CASTROL.COM/US IS AT YOUR OWN RISK. CASTROL.COM/US IS PROVIDED ON AN “AS IS” AND “AS AVAILABLE” BASIS. NEITHER CASTROL OR ITS AFFILIATES WARRANT THAT CASTROL.COM/US WILL BE UNINTERRUPTED OR ERROR FREE; NOR DO THEY MAKE ANY WARRANTY AS TO THE RESULTS THAT MAY BE OBTAINED FROM THE USE OF CASTROL.COM/US, OR AS TO THE ACCURACY, RELIABILITY OR CONTENT OF ANY INFORMATION OR SERVICE ON CASTROL.COM/US OR INFORMATION OR SERVICE OR PRODUCT ON ANY OTHER WEBSITE ACCESSED THROUGH CASTROL.COM/US.
http://www.castrol.com/castrol/gener...tentId=7032644
OUR LIABILITY TO YOU
THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS WEBSITE IS NOT COMPREHENSIVE. DESPITE OUR EFFORTS, IT MAY NOT BE ACCURATE, UP TO DATE OR APPLICABLE TO THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF ANY PARTICULAR CASE. WE CANNOT ACCEPT ANY LIABILITY FOR ANY INACCURACIES OR OMISSIONS (OTHER THAN FOR FRAUDULENT MISREPRESENTATION) IN THIS WEBSITE AND ANY DECISIONS YOU MAKE BASED ON INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS WEBSITE ARE YOUR SOLE RESPONSIBILITY. NEITHER BP Lubricants USA, Inc., NOR ANY OF ITS AFFILIATES ACCEPT LIABILITY FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR OTHER LOSS OR DAMAGE OF WHATSOEVER KIND ARISING OUT OF ACCESS TO, OR THE USE OF THIS WEBSITE OR ANY INFORMATION CONTAINED IN IT.
YOUR USE OF CASTROL.COM/US IS AT YOUR OWN RISK. CASTROL.COM/US IS PROVIDED ON AN “AS IS” AND “AS AVAILABLE” BASIS. NEITHER CASTROL OR ITS AFFILIATES WARRANT THAT CASTROL.COM/US WILL BE UNINTERRUPTED OR ERROR FREE; NOR DO THEY MAKE ANY WARRANTY AS TO THE RESULTS THAT MAY BE OBTAINED FROM THE USE OF CASTROL.COM/US, OR AS TO THE ACCURACY, RELIABILITY OR CONTENT OF ANY INFORMATION OR SERVICE ON CASTROL.COM/US OR INFORMATION OR SERVICE OR PRODUCT ON ANY OTHER WEBSITE ACCESSED THROUGH CASTROL.COM/US.
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I'm no expert by any means but I have a hard time believing this is due to switching from 20-50 to 5-50. 5-50 is still ok to use (sure preferably 20-50). Also by the way you describe it the engine cut out suddenly. Makes me think something else happened suddenly. What was the verdict on the empty coolant tank? Is it possible the coolant washer the cylinder walls?
Also, as you noted, the scoring is on the cylinder wall axial to the crank. Did you measure crank end play? Again, just observations from your pics.
Also, as you noted, the scoring is on the cylinder wall axial to the crank. Did you measure crank end play? Again, just observations from your pics.
#43
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I'm no expert by any means but I have a hard time believing this is due to switching from 20-50 to 5-50. 5-50 is still ok to use (sure preferably 20-50). Also by the way you describe it the engine cut out suddenly. Makes me think something else happened suddenly. What was the verdict on the empty coolant tank? Is it possible the coolant washer the cylinder walls?
Also, as you noted, the scoring is on the cylinder wall axial to the crank. Did you measure crank end play? Again, just observations from your pics.
Also, as you noted, the scoring is on the cylinder wall axial to the crank. Did you measure crank end play? Again, just observations from your pics.
I didn't measure crank end play. Can take a look today.
#44
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Dan,
How do the rings look, up close? From your pic the compression ring looks scuffed but it is hard to tell from the picture.
I would also send a sample of the oil that you drained to Blackstone (or another lab) for analysis, as well as a virgin sample of the same oil, new. And if you still have any of the Castrol 20W-50 that you were using previously, I would send that also.
What was the oil pressure doing just prior to it shutting down, do you recall?
How do the rings look, up close? From your pic the compression ring looks scuffed but it is hard to tell from the picture.
I would also send a sample of the oil that you drained to Blackstone (or another lab) for analysis, as well as a virgin sample of the same oil, new. And if you still have any of the Castrol 20W-50 that you were using previously, I would send that also.
What was the oil pressure doing just prior to it shutting down, do you recall?