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Old 07-27-2012, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Ball
Some more results from your fire?
No Bill,
I found the MAF like that before the fire. Engine heat I guess.
Old 07-27-2012, 05:09 PM
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yeah right... that was no engine heat. Most likely the MAF came from a donor car or was in a previous engine fire.
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Originally Posted by TheoJ
yeah right... that was no engine heat. Most likely the MAF came from a donor car or was in a previous engine fire.
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Old 07-28-2012, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by John Speake
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So look for airleaks into the intake as Sean suggests - check engine vacuum on the front damper at idle - should be around 21"Hg at sea level.

Check fuel pressure, check temp 2 sensor....
Vacuum (idle) = 20" Hg
fuel pressure (idle) = 3,7 Bar (54 PSI)
Old 07-28-2012, 03:12 PM
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I have something similar going on with car, though it is an L-jet. I also think I have a small hole in the exhaust before the O2 sensor. So I want to see if my O2 is giving back bad info to the brain. Might explain the pops some are having. Please keep in mind, I dont really know what I am talking about.
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Originally Posted by TheoJ
yeah right... that was no engine heat. Most likely the MAF came from a donor car or was in a previous engine fire.
Very possible...According to the previous owner the MAF was replaced twice. He had a bunch of shady mechanics work on the car as was very obvious to me judging by the sloppy work in which I had to repair/replace things as a result. The previous owner was not mechanical at all. If you are not mechanically inclined and are not willing to get dirty, you are in for a friggin ride with these cars.
Old 07-28-2012, 06:31 PM
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Worth getting the MAF calibration checked out..... easily done and could save work...

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Vacuum (idle) = 20" Hg
fuel pressure (idle) = 3,7 Bar (54 PSI)
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Originally Posted by John Speake
Worth getting the MAF calibration checked out..... easily done and could save work...
For calibration, I need the send the unit to you, right?? It is not a thing I can do...
Old 07-28-2012, 10:07 PM
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I had stumbles on acceleration, popping overrun and a deterioriating miss as things heated up . Checked everything and my thoughts were going to MAF failure. The symptoms disappeared after changing my engine mounts!!!

Car has run perfectly ever since the first startup after the mount change and this had me really scratching my head. Replacement of the mounts includes removing the main engine ground and I had disconnected that ground and given it a thoroughly good cleaning.

Main engine ground is my best guess anyway for what solved my problem and might be an area to look.

Good luck.
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Either send it to Injection Labs or to my agent Louie Ott who can check it out.

He has a calibrated flow jig.

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Originally Posted by oups59
For calibration, I need the send the unit to you, right?? It is not a thing I can do...
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Originally Posted by John Speake
Worth getting the MAF calibration checked out..... easily done and could save work...
I swap my MAF with another one. Same symptoms ..
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Originally Posted by oups59
I swap my MAF with another one. Same symptoms ..
Did the same...same symtoms
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make sure the MAF is pointing the right way. Look at the flow arrow make sure its pointing in the intake.
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Maybe it's the first time ii can help here...it's a common problem on bmws with l-jetronic and early motronic:the throttle switch is out of place or you need a new one.
move throttle link where all accelerator and cruise control cables are attached on the intake manifold, move throttle slightly, as soon as you move it you could hear a click,if the throttle moves some millimeters before hearing that click you need to adjust, or the ecu will think the engine is still idling when you instead are presssing accelerator pedal...on bmws the throttle switch is calibrated on the travel or working angle of the throttle,so the porsche lhjetronic is,bear in mind that of you need to move 4 millimeters the throttle to hear that click sound from the switch,this means also that the throttle is full open but the throttle switch has a "delay" of 4millimeters to switch on again and tell the ecu you are running flat out...and the ecu will never give you full power.
Hope this helps and hope you understood anything with my poor language.
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Originally Posted by siscogts
Maybe it's the first time ii can help here...it's a common problem on bmws with l-jetronic and early motronic:the throttle switch is out of place or you need a new one.
move throttle link where all accelerator and cruise control cables are attached on the intake manifold, move throttle slightly, as soon as you move it you could hear a click,if the throttle moves some millimeters before hearing that click you need to adjust, or the ecu will think the engine is still idling when you instead are presssing accelerator pedal...on bmws the throttle switch is calibrated on the travel or working angle of the throttle,so the porsche lhjetronic is,bear in mind that of you need to move 4 millimeters the throttle to hear that click sound from the switch,this means also that the throttle is full open but the throttle switch has a "delay" of 4millimeters to switch on again and tell the ecu you are running flat out...and the ecu will never give you full power.
Hope this helps and hope you understood anything with my poor language.
That's an interesting thought even though I don't understand exactly how this would cause the problem of the OP.
If you nail the throttle, the idle switch will be open at virtually the same instant, regardless of where it actually is triggered (well, mostly)?!

Does anyone know how much travel of the bowden cable (after taking out any play) to the throttle is OK before the idle switch clicks?

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