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Old 07-15-2012, 09:57 PM
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My Father in law is a Bimmer guy and made the pacer comment about my original low mile 928S. he is restoring a '69 2002 at the moment. The Pacer came to market before the 928 but the 928 was its influence as it was designed before the Pacer but its development time was much much longer. My guess would be that the Pacer like so many other cars of the day was influenced by the 928. I studied Industrial design, love my 928 and find its design pretty at any angle.
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Old 07-15-2012, 11:21 PM
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When I bought my '87 S4 twenty-five years ago, I heard the same crap. Isn't it amazing how the later Corvetes got the same shape when they went to the rear mounted transmission. Besides all of that, I look at my car today and marvel at how much ahead of its time that it was.
Old 07-15-2012, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by h011yw00d
sold it for $9K to Fourney, who knows how to type up a press release, who will probably get 10x his $ on the car. Sigh...
I can't remember the entire chain of events, but he didn't sell it to Forney. He put it on display there in hopes of drumming up business. He later sold it, I believe, on eBay. It was the Volo Museum that later had it for sale for a much higher sum.

When the guy who first tracked it down had it here in Denver, it was in rough shape. Not really even drivable. He wasn't much of a car guy, so repairs were not something he could do and I think he was more interested in selling it quick that restoring it himself.

As for the movie: it definitely didn't look like it cost a lot of money to make. A local group sat down and watched it with the owner and I had a really hard time sitting through it because it was so boring and amateurish. I believe his goal was in getting recognition as a filmmaker through it and he was actively submitting it to film festivals (but not getting accepted).

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I guess I like all the old cars that are kept presentable, especially if unique. My brother-in-law bought a new Pacer for his wife (my sister), it WAS interesting. The surprise was that it was terrible on gas. IIRC, it was in the neighborhood of 13mpg. AMC did try some interesting things though... my Dad bought a new 1960 Rambler wagon with factory air and manual overdrive, he finally let it go, many years later, with 140k. I remember sitting on the fender watching him change the compressor head gasket, which he did almost every summer vacation. I think AMC also had a 4wd car too....Bruce
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Interestingly the AMC Gremlin had a Porsche/VW/Audi 924 engine in it. However, I would take Rebecca Demornay's hot body over any AMC product. I might even trade one for just ten minutes with that bod.
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Better than any AMC body lines...
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Originally Posted by NC928S4
"Though the 928 model looks unfortunately like an AMC Pacer"
Has anyone ever actually mistaken a 928 for a Pacer? I doubt it.

But it still amazes me how many people can't tell the difference between a 928 and a 944, or know that there's a V8 under the hood. After I bought mine a coworker insisted it couldn't be the original engine because Porsche never made a V8.
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I know this is off topic guys but i thought i would ask.

Can't the 928 V8 be classified as a big-block V8 design, as it can be stroked/bored safely up to 6.5L and still maintain decent reliability and streetability?
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Originally Posted by ninedeuceeight
Interestingly the AMC Gremlin had a Porsche/VW/Audi 924 engine in it.
You sure about that?

I owned both a 1976 Hornet (Gremlin with trunk) and a 1979 924. The Gremlin/Hornet had 3 engine choices: 3.2L I6, 3.8L I6, or 5.0L V8. The 924 had a 2.0L I4.
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Originally Posted by 17prospective buyer
Better than any AMC body lines...
Maybe so, but I still like both generations of the Javelin/AMX.
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928 engine is a small block because it ONLY goes up to 6.5 liters. But in reality was designed to run between 4.5-5.5 by the factory. Small block chevy easily is a 427 cu in, big blocks 572s (9.5 liters) are common. The Audi 4 was used by AMC for a bit but was not a good seller. Pacers were heavy cars and did have poor MPG no matter which motor. Lapine knew Teague who designed the Pacer from when both worked at GM but Lapine had moved back to Europe with Opel years before the Pacer design.
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Really?? I thought it was a big block design since it's huge compared to any SBF or SBC's.
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Originally Posted by brutus
The Audi 4 was used by AMC for a bit but was not a good seller.
I stand corrected.

I wasn't even correct about engine choices in 1976 - turns out it was 3.8L and 4.2L. And in 1977 AMC offered the Gremlin with an Audi 4 cylinder engine.

One difference - the Gremlin version came with a carburetor while the 924 got fuel injection.
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Originally Posted by Bill Coleman
But it still amazes me how many people can't tell the difference between a 928 and a 944, or know that there's a V8 under the hood. After I bought mine a coworker insisted it couldn't be the original engine because Porsche never made a V8.
I had the same thing from a co-worker, he said "isn't that supposed to be a 2.8 V6? It must not have the original engine"


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