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Old 06-28-2012, 09:08 PM
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88S4.

938intl radiator. 25mo old. RIP.

TWO SHOPS have told me the same thing. Too much body flex and you'll slowly tear apart an alum radiator at the corners.

Was too far gone. Another grand for another radiator, oem this time, with overnight shipping.

Only advice, seriously losen up the upper mounts if you have an alum rad, to allow lots of movement in the chassis.
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This is the aluminum polished well into the rubber on my upper mounts. It moves, a lot.

Mark, stop sellin these to street cars without cages to stiffen up the fronts maybe?

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Originally Posted by Speedtoys
938intl radiator. 25mo old. RIP.
Gotta pay attention to the details. 938intl is probably some cheap knockoff of the genuine 928intl product.
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Isn't the OE radiator aluminum? Or are you talking about the side tanks, which are plastic in the OE radiators.
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Originally Posted by Speedtoys
This is the aluminum polished well into the rubber on my upper mounts. It moves, a lot.

Mark, stop sellin these to street cars without cages to stiffen up the fronts maybe?

Interesting......my 88 auto had a "who knows how old" stock radiator that worked great.....My racer has an aluminum radiator, but also has an 8 point cage..... I haven't heard of many failures from 928intl's radiator...vs Deveks that had quite a few.......
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Originally Posted by SQLGuy
Isn't the OE radiator aluminum? Or are you talking about the side tanks, which are plastic in the OE radiators.
The OEM is a soft seal between the core and tanks.

It can take the very minor shape changes that are being asked of it.
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Get yourself a new Behr radiator - they're not that expensive, at least in Australia (where everything is usually a lot more $$ than the USA).

I've never understood why so many people think an all-aluminum radiator is going to be better than the factory ones; I guess peoples' perceptions of its quality are skewed by the fact that the radiator failed on *their* watch, so it must be bad, rather than realising it failed after 20 (or more) years of service.
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I wonder if a 30 year old now hard as rock "rubber" mount could be part of the problem?
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If anyone's interested, here's my radiator mounting. These work well and I can't imagine ever having problems.
They are aluminum channels with rubber on the inside. Both top and bottom have them.
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Originally Posted by Speedtoys
This is the aluminum polished well into the rubber on my upper mounts. It moves, a lot.

Mark, stop sellin these to street cars without cages to stiffen up the fronts maybe?
I can't speak for him but I believe Mark posted somewhere else that he stopped selling these.

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Originally Posted by Mike Simard
If anyone's interested, here's my radiator mounting. These work well and I can't imagine ever having problems.
They are aluminum channels with rubber on the inside. Both top and bottom have them.
You can make a radiator mount look sexy!

Dare I ask the cost and availability?
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Originally Posted by mickster
You can make a radiator mount look sexy!

Dare I ask the cost and availability?
I fabbed that for my own radiator and wouldn't know how to make them for others.

It's possible to have an aluminum radiator well mounted and that pic is just food for thought.
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Originally Posted by danglerb
I wonder if a 30 year old now hard as rock "rubber" mount could be part of the problem?

It COULD be, as 'stiff mounted' to move with the chassis..would force movement into the radiator.

Everything else up front is suspended in soft mounts..
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Originally Posted by Speedtoys
88S4.

938intl radiator. 25mo old. RIP.

TWO SHOPS have told me the same thing. Too much body flex and you'll slowly tear apart an alum radiator at the corners.

Was too far gone. Another grand for another radiator, oem this time, with overnight shipping.

Only advice, seriously losen up the upper mounts if you have an alum rad, to allow lots of movement in the chassis.
There's no way that a radiator mounted in those rubber mounts is going to flex enough to damage the core. I can barely get the silly things to hold the radiators upright where I want them, much less hold them tightly.

The problem is the "cheap" core....not the flex. When I looked into building a high quality radiator for the 928 application, a "high quality" core was going to cost the radiator fabricators more than 928 International was charging for their complete radiator.

Didn't take me long to figure out how many of those I was going to be able to sell, to a group of people who think that Ford (and now Volvo) motor mounts must be better, just because they were cheaper....

Buy a Behr, while they are still available. The "last ones" on the planet are being sold, right now.


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