Danny B

I'm doing my opg and motor mounts.
Everything is off except for the couple of bolts under the starter.

I've got the 2 bolts removed from the starter and it still won't budge....

Rubber mallet, no luck.
Anybody got any tips?

Lizard928

Block of wood and ball pean. However, ensure you have the right two bolts out.

namasgt

There is one bolt on the very bottom and one on top of the starter next to the oil pan...
Not sure what you mean by couple bolts UNDER the starter.

Danny B

One on top, one of the bottom. Extremely stubborn.

namasgt

Have you tried soaking the area with PB blaster?

Danny B

PB blaster.. Yes I did. I was going to check and see how it worked.

928Myles

Danny,
You could try removing the cover over the torque tube / flexi-plate area (4 bolts, two at front and two at rear which you may need to lower the exhaust a little to get out) and that will give you access to the tip of the motor mechanism and you could lever onto that to get it out.
Shorten the two rear cover bolts by 5mm and you can remove easily in the future without lowering the exhaust.

Myles

depami

Put 12V power to it, it will come out!

Bill Ball

Those should be 10mm Allen heads [EDIT: The bolts are 10mm, the Allen head is 8mm]. The top one is almost inaccessible and it's easy to strip the head unless you get just the right tool well seated. I encountered one I had to use a chisel on to loosen.

Imo000

^^^^ This!

Rob Edwards

I think these socket head cap screws take an 8mm hex. Harbor Freight (and many others) make a set of ~4" long (maybe they're 6") long ball-head allen sockets that work well here:

http://www.harborfreight.com/7-piece...set-67888.html

Just make sure the head of the cap screw is cleaned out first and that the ball is fully engaged.


The starter is semi-captive in place thanks to the front swaybar, which needs to be undone from its mounting brackets and rotated down to completely remove the starter out of the starter mounting bracket (At least on an S4, I assume this is also true on an '84). Even so, bumping the starter with 12V sounds like a good way to damage flywheel teeth, starter teeth, your slave cylinder hydraulic lines (if a 5-speed), etc. If you choose to try this, make sure someone's holding your beer, first.

depami

It was a sarcastic joke but I suppose there are some people that would give it a try.

Guess I should be more careful to not mislead anyone into damaging their car or themselves.

But then again, if it were done with the bolts just cracked loose, it might work.

Imo000

You don't go FULL RETARD and crank it......Jeebus! Just bump it, same results as a hammer but the forces are coming from the inside of the wlywheel.

Danny B

It took about 15 minutes with a board and hammer, and a helper.. it finally came off.

Imo000

I think it's safe to say that your starter was never off since it rolled of the assembly line.